‘I certainly do. Do you know about the British keeping JEws out from 1929 onwards, helping Arab migration, and arming ARabs druning WW2? Do you know about the British turning away Jewish refugees during World War 2?’
Yes I do. The situation in Palestine 1918-1944 is a bit more complex than you make out. The British were stuck in the middle between two groups with intent to take Palestine and with violent factions in both camps. I also know that Britain then and now was accused of blowing up ships with Jews on them, which of course was and is a lie.
I also know my history weel enough to know what the likes of Orde Wingate was doing in the 1930’s: setting up and training Jewish self defence units in Palestine.
Ah, those Briddish. Helping Jews to defend themselves.
Bastards.
’ National Liberation movements often do a few bad things. Shall I go over Scottish and English history with you?’
Oh spare me. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were no William Wallaces or George Washingtons.
They were and are no more a ‘legitimate’ national ‘liberation group’ than the IRA. They were terrorists pure and simple.
‘King David Hotel; Oh you mean British occupation HQ? Seems like a legitimate target.
As for the two soldiers, awful shame, but the British were hanging members of the Irgun. Tit for tat.’
Wow. So you actually think some terrorism is legitimate?.
Well, if thats the case, then you wont mind if I think the USS Cole or the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were legitimate targets.....?.
As for tit fot tat, the Jews the British hung were Irgun/Stern terrorists who had already murdered and killed British soldiers and civilians. Notably Lord Mayne in 1944.
Yet you make it sound as if the British were hanging Jews for fun. Shameful distortion of history.
‘Because Deir Yassin was not a massacre. That is a silly lie put forth by the Arabs and the leftist-enemies of the Irgun.’
Irgun veterans themselves admit that at least 25 people were executed AFTER the battle. There is ample evidence from the Jewish side that day that brutality took place.
It is a ‘lie’ to say that nothing took place that day. Something beyond the battle did. Whilst what happened may be the subject of inflated story and counterfact, there is no doubt that SOME brutality took place by the Jewish terrorists that day. So much so that the Jewish Agency for Israel apologised for the actions of the Irgun.
‘Any causality here if your mind, or do you think the British left Palestine and stopped helping to kill Jews out of the kindness of their hearts?.
Yes, it proves that terrorism works when you have good PR. Then and now.
‘stopped killing Jews’.....again, the history reduction ad absurdum. The only Jews the British killed in Palestine were the murdeing terrorists who took British, Jewish and Arab life.
The Irgun and Stern Gangs were the ones that killed innocent Jews in Palestine in those years. Those unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of their terrorism or those who had the decency to oppose their zealotry and remain decent Jews without hatred in their heart.
I also know my history weel enough to know what the likes of Orde Wingate was doing in the 1930’s: setting up and training Jewish self defence units in Palestine.
And Wingate was treated as a pariah. Compare that to Lieutenant-General Sir John Bagot Glubb, aka Pasha Glubb, who led the TransJordanian army in the war of annihilation against the Jews.
Ah, those Briddish. Helping Jews to defend themselves. Bastards.
1 officer acting againts policy, as the British disarmed Jews and armed Arabs.
Oh spare me. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were no William Wallaces or George Washingtons.
I don't recall the Irgun or LeHI attacking York or Toronto. And we all know how well Wallace treating English captives.
They were and are no more a ‘legitimate’ national ‘liberation group’ than the IRA. They were terrorists pure and simple.
So do you hate the Irish, or just the Israelis?
Wow. So you actually think some terrorism is legitimate?.
Terrorism is a tactic. These were not terrorist acts.
Well, if thats the case, then you wont mind if I think the USS Cole or the American Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were legitimate targets.....?.
1. The US does not occupy Kenya, Tanzania or Yemen.
2. The USS Cole was a perfectly legitimate target. It's a war. Our commanders murdered our sailors with their stupidity and arrogance. As for Al Qaeda, we are at war with them. They are the enemy and should be hunted down along with their families who provide refuge for them.
As for tit fot tat, the Jews the British hung were Irgun/Stern terrorists who had already murdered and killed British soldiers and civilians. Notably Lord Mayne in 1944. Yet you make it sound as if the British were hanging Jews for fun. Shameful distortion of history.
I provided context for the killing of the British soldiers, you make them sound like innocents.
Irgun veterans themselves admit that at least 25 people were executed AFTER the battle. There is ample evidence from the Jewish side that day that brutality took place.
Not to my knowledge. As for the "Jewish side", there was no unified Jewish side. The Communists and Socialists spread rumors of the massacre working the Arabs to discredit the Irgun. Are you normally on the Communist-ISlamist side?
It is a ‘lie’ to say that nothing took place that day. Something beyond the battle did. Whilst what happened may be the subject of inflated story and counterfact, there is no doubt that SOME brutality took place by the Jewish terrorists that day. So much so that the Jewish Agency for Israel apologised for the actions of the Irgun.
The Jewish agency was run by political opponents of Revisionist Zionists. They were all to willing to slander the Irgun. But the truth is that Israelis and Jews in general have a sniviling habit of feeling bad and apologizing before the facts are discovered. This has happened dozens of times in the last decade. Not that the Pro-Palestinian British media will publish the facts.
You might be interested in the Irgun account, which is backed up. http://www.etzel.org.il/english/ac17.htm
Yes, it proves that terrorism works when you have good PR. Then and now
And the English have never committed questionable acts. The Irgun and Stern Gangs were the ones that killed innocent Jews in Palestine in those years.
No, that would be the Palmach. Look up the Altalena incident. Those unfortunate enough to be in the vicinity of their terrorism or those who had the decency to oppose their zealotry and remain decent Jews without hatred in their heart.