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WRECK OF EDMUND FITZGERALD: Remembering a maritime disaster
grandforksherald.com ^ | 10/09/2010 | John Myers

Posted on 11/09/2010 10:33:44 PM PST by prisoner6

WRECK OF EDMUND FITZGERALD: Remembering a maritime disaster

After 35 years, wreck of the Fitz still intrigues Maybe it’s because no one knows for sure exactly what happened. Maybe it’s because so many lives were lost in an instant. Or maybe it’s because of the song. It was 35 years ago tonight when the Great Lakes freighter Edmund Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superior. A generation has passed. Memories fade. But interest in the “Fitz” is still keen.

DULUTH — Maybe it’s because no one knows for sure exactly what happened. Maybe it’s because so many lives were lost in an instant. Or maybe it’s because of the song.

It was 35 years ago tonight when the Great Lakes freighter Edmund Fitzgerald sank in Lake Superior. A generation has passed. Memories fade. But interest in the “Fitz” is still keen.

“It’s not our biggest exhibit, but it’s the one we absolutely have to keep up,” said Thom Holden, director of the Lake Superior Maritime Museum in Duluth’s Canal Park. “We can’t touch the Fitz exhibit without people getting upset about it. We still get a lot of questions about it.”

But most of the people asking the questions are older now.

“When I first got here in 1977, it was the young school children who knew the most, who were most interested, because it was recent history for them. … Now, even the parents of the children who come through weren’t born when it happened,” Holden said. “For the kids now, it’s like the Titanic. It’s ancient history. But it’s still one of our most asked-about ships or events.”

Holden said the haunting 1976 Gordon Lightfoot ballad about the wreck is a big part of the intrigue.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: greatlakes; shipwreck; superior
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To: Hegewisch Dupa

can’t stand that song!


21 posted on 11/10/2010 5:22:16 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Dem Guard
"He believes there was a crack in the hull that was welded quickly after his last trip that may have caused it to break up."

Interesting theory. The Liberty ships of WWII experienced hull cracks such as this, and helped expand the science of Fracture Mechanics. Such fractures are helped along by cold temperatures and weld flaws. Some think it is why the Titanic sunk, rather than just flooding a few compartments.

22 posted on 11/10/2010 5:26:23 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: xsmommy
From what I read the sinking happened rather quickly at least compared to the song. It gives the impression that they knew were in trouble a long time.
23 posted on 11/10/2010 5:29:11 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Perhaps the song would be more bearable were it shorter. I do not like music that makes me sad, basically. it’s one of the reasons i can’t stand country bc it makes me cry.


24 posted on 11/10/2010 5:34:56 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Prince of Space
Wanna clear out a party? Start playing that song!

I didn't look but I believe it's only 6 or 7 minutes long.

Just seems a lot longer.

25 posted on 11/10/2010 5:38:32 AM PST by Graybeard58
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To: prisoner6
This year's remembrance will focus on the Lady Elgin, which sunk after being rammed by a schooner on Lake Michigan in the early morning hours of Sept. 8, 1860.

As an aside, I was doing reserve duty with VP-60 at NAS Glenview bach in the late 70's when one of the P-3 crews found the wreck of the Lady Elgin. They had been doing MAD runs looking for some WWI German subs that had been scuttled off Chicago when they came across a large contact that was later identified as the Lady Elgin's powerplant. She's a lot further north and west than originally presumed.

26 posted on 11/10/2010 5:38:48 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: Drennan Whyte
Oops, north and east of wheter they originally presumed. If it was north and west then she would have sunk in Gurnee.
27 posted on 11/10/2010 5:40:26 AM PST by Drennan Whyte
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To: prisoner6
TD Mischke interviews Gumbringer and sings his questions to the tune of the Lightfoot song.
28 posted on 11/10/2010 5:56:45 AM PST by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: prisoner6

This tragedy would not have been remembered by as many if it wasn’t for Gordon Lightfoot’s great song.


29 posted on 11/10/2010 6:09:00 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: prisoner6
Isn't it possible for wave heights and wave period to be such that the bow and stern were elevated and the middle of the ship was unsupported or took repeated strains that she broke in two?


30 posted on 11/10/2010 6:09:04 AM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012y)
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To: prisoner6

From the mid 19th century until its end, the list of ships taken by Lake Superior is quite long. If you’re into scuba diving, you can while away the entire summer exploring shipwrecks in the cold waters around the Keweenaw Peninsula and Isle Royale in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula. These same cold waters preserve these wrecks quite well in the big lake. The location of a number of these shipwrecks from that century is still to be discovered.


31 posted on 11/10/2010 6:20:07 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Graybeard58

it’s the waves; they turn minutes to hours


32 posted on 11/10/2010 6:28:00 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: Rebelbase

that is one of the theories


33 posted on 11/10/2010 6:29:35 AM PST by Hegewisch Dupa
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To: norwaypinesavage

I have read that the rivets brought up from the wreck of the Titanic appear to have too much slag in their composition and as such, in the arctic cold waters, became brittle and sheared on impact with the ice berg.


34 posted on 11/10/2010 6:36:34 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We didn't limit out, but we nailed a bunch of RATS!)
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To: Barnacle
*It was a miserable night, even as far south as Chicago.

The Great Lakes are called great for a reason. They are every bit as treacherous as any sea on Earth.*

Yep. I was around then. It did have a big impact on people in Chicago and Chicagoland. A girl that I knew in high school was the daughter of the captain of a ship on Lake Michigan.

35 posted on 11/10/2010 7:09:30 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: xsmommy

Here is an excellent memorial to The Edmund Fitzgerald - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw = includes inserted radio and TV broadcasts as well as pictures both of the ship as it is launched, sailed, and underwater clips, and “the faces and names” as well. Very well done.

The length of the song is barely sufficient for this video production.


36 posted on 11/10/2010 11:26:16 AM PST by AFPhys ((Praying for our troops, our citizens, that the Bible and Freedom become basis of the US law again))
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To: norwaypinesavage

The sailor was a young man at the time. As I recall he decided to go to college or made a job change and avoided that final trip.


37 posted on 11/10/2010 1:20:54 PM PST by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: ReneeLynn

Depends on whether or not you like Gordon Lightfoot’s music.


38 posted on 11/10/2010 2:45:45 PM PST by dr_who
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To: dr_who

It’s a Seinfeld thing.


39 posted on 11/10/2010 3:54:07 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it*s the new black. Mmm Mmm Mmm.)
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To: AFPhys

Thanks AF. That is one of the best... No, that is the best compilations of audio and video I’ve seen on the Fitz.


40 posted on 11/10/2010 8:05:36 PM PST by Barnacle (God help us.)
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