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Smoke plume off Calif. coast possibly aircraft
Washington Times ^ | 11/09/10 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 11/09/2010 2:25:47 PM PST by jimbo123

A mysterious smoke plume that looked like a missile firing off the California coast on Monday may have been an aircraft and not a missile, U.S. military officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alaskaairlines225; californiamissile; contrail; mysterymissile; tinfoilbrigade
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To: jimbo123
Any pilots out there who can translate this from the comments on the video?

Jeff

It was a missile exercise by the US Navy.

KZLA LOS ANGELES (ARTCC)PALMDALE, CA.

A2832/10 NOTAMN A) KZLA B) 1011092000 C) 1011100100
E) THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR
WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537.
IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS
ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION
SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176.
CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED.
F) SURFACE G) FL390

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41 posted on 11/09/2010 2:42:21 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Dems' response to 11/2: Do not go gentle into that new day,Rage,rage against the coming of the dawn!)
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To: jimbo123
SLBM, and the NOTAM seems pretty clear

Not surprised one agency doesn't know that another one is doing something

42 posted on 11/09/2010 2:42:21 PM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: Paladin2

Man, this IS starting to look like TWA 800.

Don’t believe your lying eyes. ;)


43 posted on 11/09/2010 2:42:40 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: FromLori

Looks like the coast was clear.


44 posted on 11/09/2010 2:42:56 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: jessduntno

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624382/posts?q=1&;page=101


45 posted on 11/09/2010 2:43:15 PM PST by tired1 (Federalize the Fed)
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To: FromLori

It looks like a jet contrail, but that’d have to be one hell of an optical illusion to make it appear at that angle. It would not be difficult, given the exact time this was spotted, to correlate it with high-altitude air traffic in the area and see if something was coming through.

Interestingly, the Los Angeles ARTCC (Air Route Traffic Control Center) did apparently have a Notice to Airmen closing a portion of offshore airspace. I can’t vouch for this, but it was posted on that San Francisco CBS link that’s in this thread:

KZLA LOS ANGELES (ARTCC)PALMDALE, CA.
A2832/10 NOTAMN A) KZLA B) 1011092000 C) 1011100100
E) THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR
WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537.
IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS
ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION
SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176.
CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION.
W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED.
F) SURFACE G) FL390

}:-)4


46 posted on 11/09/2010 2:44:32 PM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: FromLori

That picture does, actually, look like a con trail. But it does not explain the big flying saucer hiding a part of the upper trail!


47 posted on 11/09/2010 2:45:39 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: jimbo123

About halfway through the video and aircraft comes into view at a much close distance that the video feed.


48 posted on 11/09/2010 2:45:39 PM PST by Bruinator (God is Great.... Beer is good.... Muzzies are.........?)
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To: jimbo123

If it had been an aircraft would that show up on radar records?


49 posted on 11/09/2010 2:45:52 PM PST by From The Deer Stand
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To: surfer

Well I hate to ague with you but your wrong it was a A380 with an engine problem


50 posted on 11/09/2010 2:46:20 PM PST by al baby (Hi Mom REMEMBER FREE REPUBLIC IN YOUR WILL. I DID)
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To: jimbo123

The Aliens have come back to get Obama......


51 posted on 11/09/2010 2:46:20 PM PST by jakerobins
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To: Paladin2

I’ll see your NFW and raise you 6 Total BS and 3 NFW’s.


52 posted on 11/09/2010 2:46:47 PM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: jimbo123

al gore ripped one while flying on his magic non carbon emitting carpet.

true story.


53 posted on 11/09/2010 2:47:14 PM PST by sappy (criminalibs)
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To: KarlInOhio

I think the question on the NOTAMN is that is was ISSUED AFTER THE LAUNCH that took place, not before.


54 posted on 11/09/2010 2:47:31 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: KarlInOhio

Well, I’m not a pilot, but...

“1011092000” and “10111100100” are the dates and times in Greenwich Mean Time—so, 11/9/10 2000 GMT (12:00 noon PST) to 11/10/10 0100 GMT (5:00 pm PST). If the contrail appeared after 5:00 pm, then this NOTAM may not mean anything.

W537 is probably the code that defines the no-fly area over the weapons center. I don’t know what those CAE numbers are but “oceanic transition” is where an aircraft is handed off from the Los Angeles ARTCC to Oceanic controllers, where it leaves radar coverage.

So basically, they’re shutting down a section of airspace from 12:00 to 17:00 local yesterday. Is that anywhere near this? I have no clue.

}:-)4


55 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:29 PM PST by Moose4 ("By all that you hold dear on this good Earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West!")
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To: Moose4

Former Deputy Sec. claims it was a missile...

“It’s spectacular. It takes people’s breath away,” former U.S. Ambassador to NATO and former Deputy Secretary of Defense Robert Ellsworth told the station after viewing the video. Ellsworth could offer little in the way of speculation about the projectile’s origins, beyond supposing that it looked to be an American show of force, but he did classify it as “a big missile.” Various reports say that the missile was launched roughly 35 miles out to sea, west of L.A. and north of Catalina Island.

In full here http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_upshot/20101109/od_yblog_upshot/no-one-seems-to-know-where-mysterious-missile-launched-near-la-came-from


56 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:34 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I’ve been in my brother-in-law’s Citation at 45,000 feet. I gotta admit that from that altitude commercial airliner contrails look completely different.

The still photo’s I’ve seen of this thing DO look like contrails. If there is no video of an actual rocket taking off and creating the contrail, I’m gonna go with the contrail explanation.


57 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:43 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: stockpirate

What about my LOL? Cloward-Piven highly values ridicule.


58 posted on 11/09/2010 2:48:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: jimbo123

Yeah, sure. Do morons publish this nonsense for fun?


59 posted on 11/09/2010 2:49:38 PM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: jimbo123

I believe its more propaganda to put fear in the American people. At what point will the American people surrender their sovereignty from all that is being thrown at us? Its all a grand illusion to fool us.


60 posted on 11/09/2010 2:50:36 PM PST by hope
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