Pentagon Can't Explain "Missile" off California

http://www.cbsnews.com ^

[tired1]

The Pentagon Tuesday said it was trying to determine if a missile was launched Monday off the coast of Southern California and who might have launched it.

[Godebert]

"Note too that to claim a sun reflection, the sun would have to set in the East. "

The sun was below the horizon, reflecting off the underside of the passenger jet.

[Drago]

I think these 2 are much better possibilities (higher altitude, South to North):
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA225
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ASA221

[Justa]

"Maybe this was an accidental launch of something we are not supposed to know about and are not about to learn about any time soon, They hope."

Yes, it was a Super-Secret, Lithium-Blue missile launch. Everyone on this board will now have their savings confiscated and sent to live in USSR gulag.

[dead]

There were probably a dozen jets in the air around LA at that time. Figuring out which left the contrail would involve knowing the exact time of day, the exact location of the videographer, and the direction in which he was filming.

[dead]

There is a red glow at the head of the plume, but it’s not necessarily fire. The plane at altitude is in the light of the setting sun, glowing red above the dark ground below, where the sun has already fully set.

[Braak]

Here's another thought?

What if it was one of these:

http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/r-18.html

[politicianslie]

TWA800:

WHY would ANY of you believe ANYTHING the US Government says about TWA 800? Anyone with an IQ even approaching room temperature can determine in just a few minutes the US Government LIED, LIED and told more lies, the only question is WHY?

Actually, the answer is relatively easy to figure out, start by IGNORING EVERYTHING that they tell you to believe. Start there and think AND here’s another good hint: if the NSA/NTSB/CIA/FBI thugs couldn’t filter/alter information, pay attention to it, anything the US Government provides is suspect. From that and the following link, YOU KNOW that missiles were fired at the airliner. If you can’t get that far, go watch CBS news because you really are brain dead :-)

http://www.twa800.com/eyewitnesses.htm

http://twa800.com/images/times-8-15-00.gif

The Ad says we know missiles were launched but they say they don’t know who launched them. I do know who launched the missiles but the US Government will do just about anything to make sure YOU don’t. There are very good reasons for that, one of the reasons is they don’t want you to know they got caught with their pants down around their knees.

Once the spell is broken you might be able to catch them at some of their really big lies; until then, you’ll just have to wonder why Sandy Berger was stuffing TOP SECRET SPECIAL CATEGORY DOCUMENTS into his underwear.

[WhistlingPastTheGraveyard]

American Airlines Flight 587, 11/12/2001. Likely the first successful shoe bomb attack.

[American Constitutionalist]

As regards to Obama and those who are in charge ( think, the Doctor Strange Love movie ) the American people ( the flyover country unwashed folks ) are expendable.

[jboot]

In the early '60s, there were 19 Nike missile batteries defending LA. Whatever this thing was, it would have faced a lot of metal in the air.

Today, not so much.

Today, we suck.

[American Constitutionalist]

Unless it's a military jet, or sun reflections from a commercial jetliner, it's a missile.

[Diggity]

No the times were wrong and yes I know the times were UTC.

[Diggity]

LOL. That’s a missile.

[Perdogg]

It belongs to Hugo Drax.

[BlessingsofLiberty]

“Yeah, well, that just goes to show ya not ta always believe what “folks are saying.” HERE’S your supposedly-nonexistent NOTAM, for the LA area. Note especially the effective dates, and how they nicely bracket the time this “mysterious object” appeared in the sky: 14:30 NOV 8 until 19:30 NOV 10.”

KZLA LOS ANGELES

11/009 - AIRSPACE UNMANNED ACFT 5 NMR VCV 5400/BLW AVOIDANCE
ADZD 1430-1930 DLY. 08 NOV 14:30 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 19:30 2010. CREATED: 05
NOV 16:54 2010

Good Catch!!

Hey folks, we are going to replace the shuttle with something.

[brytlea]

I am all too aware of that. Disconcerting to say the least.

[D-fendr]

I think these 2 are much better possibilities (higher altitude, South to North):

Could well be. We need to know more about location and direction.

I found the local story KCBS which shot the video. Here's a screengrab off their raw video:

Note the land and the apparent position of the sun. [Is the camera poionting SSE? Where is the 'copter] Here's relevant info from the text at the site:

…vapor trail that crossed the skies over Los Angeles on Monday night… While cruising the skies Monday at sunset, Sky2 captured on video what appears to be a missile making its way up into the sky from over the Pacific Ocean off the California coast... [Sunset today in LA was 4:53 PST ]

Also from the text at the source:

One expert called it an optical illusion. “It’s an airplane that is heading toward the camera and the contrail is illuminated by the setting sun,” said John Pike, director of the U.S.-based security analyst group globalsecurity.org.…
Pike said the object could not have been a rocket because it appeared to alter its course. “The local station chopped up the video and so it’s hard to watch it continuously,” Pike said. “But at one place you can see it has changed course — rockets don’t do that.” Pike said he didn’t understand why the military had not recognized the contrail of an aircraft. “The Air Force must …understand how contrails are formed,” he said. “Why they can’t get some major out to belabor the obvious, I don’t know.”

Raw video and more pics at the link.

[SgtBob]

I’ve tried DOD for NOTAMs and NOMARs. As a pilot, I can find the info, however the KZLA NOTAM isn’t with DOD or FAA....I did find many on the internet...the words that “stick out” to me are “all non-participating pilots are advised to avoid....” In reality the wording would be “TFR”. Plain and simple.

While I’m not familiar with NOMARs, I’ll bet sailors would get the same, lest an ICBM cumma runnin’ through the keel.

[Ron C.]

It is fairly obviously this was a SLBC launch - I've seen too many while in the Navy to doubt that in any way. You can clearly see the second-stage ignite near the end of the tape - and there would be a third stage, but normally not visible from earth. In no way was this a jet aircraft...

The questions: 'Who launched it?' - 'Why from 35-40 miles off Los Angeles?' and, 'Where was it targeted?' - I suspect will never be honestly answered by this government. Simply because those answers would have been made public hours ago, had government given the military clearance to reveal what they know, and they most certainly know much.

In other words this was 'Top Secret' from the beginning - or has been made so, because it was a blunder far too big to make public - until they can come up with a believable half-truth, or an outright lie.

I opt for the second probability - or what seems to be a third option playing out currently - plead ignorance, and hope the story fades away.

Bottom line, you can not trust this government... media or, increasingly, military leadership.

[wrench]

Obama is canceling his trip and heading home to manage the coverup................................................................

This sounds right