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To: Joe Boucher; All

Were you also taught that a white amn could buy his way out of the Yankee draft? The Yankee war was plain and simple, an act of agression and suppression.

While black men were serving in the Confederate Army, black men in the North were segregated and served primarily as menials, “Glory” notwithstanding.

The legality of Secession, may have been decided by SCOTUS. Morally, the compulsion of a forced Union, is abhorent to “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness”. For if secession is wrong, and the Constitution forces a central government of unlimited powers, how can we be deemed free?

Forbidding the states to secede deprives ALL states of ANY rights. The states are now subject to the cental government, in direct violation of the Constitution. This is not what the Founders intended, else why a 9th and 10th Amendments?

Conversely, secession and the threat of it makes us a freer nation. How else could we limit the powers of an encroaching government? Look around - the federal government is suing a state because the feds don’t like a state law, a federal agency is telling a state who and how the state may grant licenses, the federal government imposes a DeathCare on all of us, and tells the states to pay for it - the list goes on and on.

The war was truly wrong, for while it freed one segment of the population, it enslaved ALL of us.


21 posted on 11/04/2010 4:43:40 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: NTHockey

Good post NTHockey,
Sooo, what about Texas and their threat if necessary to leave the union?
Personally I’m all for it.


22 posted on 11/04/2010 4:49:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Get out of our house and take your big ass wookie bride with ya)
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To: NTHockey
The war was truly wrong, for while it freed one segment of the population, it enslaved ALL of us.

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Hyperbole for breakfast?

24 posted on 11/04/2010 4:55:16 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: NTHockey
Were you also taught that a white amn could buy his way out of the Yankee draft?

As could Southerners.

The Yankee war was plain and simple, an act of agression and suppression.

The war was started by the South.

While black men were serving in the Confederate Army, black men in the North were segregated and served primarily as menials, “Glory” notwithstanding.

So by all means please outline how the vast majority of black men were serving the confederate army without being menials. This ought to be good.

40 posted on 11/04/2010 5:34:17 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: NTHockey
I'm not disputing your facts, but I do think it important to point out that a substantial number of southerners wanted nothing to do with succession and their rights were trampled on by a highhanded plurality of leaders who were dead set on forming the Confederacy.

Indeed, four states (Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee and Arkansas) resisted joining the Confederacy until invading union armies crossed their borders. Some of those same states went for the Constitutional Union Party (Andrew Johnson being the only southern senator who remained on the Union side) in the election of 1860. And even when Tennessee joined the Union, a number of counties in the eastern third of the state remained solidly Republican until this very day.

90 posted on 11/04/2010 8:44:49 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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