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Jerry Brown , governor redux, and California exits left
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 11/3/10 | Debra J. Saunders

Posted on 11/03/2010 8:36:58 AM PDT by SmithL

California voters have spoken -- and for the most part, they decided to stop the wave of anti-Democratic voting that swept the nation at the Sierras.

Now California will have a Democratic governor, Democratic Legislature and with the passage of Prop. 25, Democratic budgeting process. For years now, the Dems have been blaming the Republican minority for the state's budget woes. That's over for the next two years. Whatever happens next with California -- it will be on Jerry Brown and his party. I sure hope Brown will prove to be the maverick he hinted he would be.

Talk to your average California Republican voter and you heard little enthusiasm for Meg Whitman. Conservatives voted for Whitman because she wasn't Jerry Brown. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; ca2010; goldenstate; jerrybrown; leftcoast; moonbeam
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To: palmer

“Prop 13 is the last bit of fiscal sanity left there. Lots of hardworking people were able to stay because their houses were grandfathered in to low taxes. If they raise those, everybody but the welfare class will leave.”

Absolutely! I fought hard to get Prop 13 passed and have been like the Angel of Death on anyone even hinting that we need to weaken or do away with it.

Rape/tax/spend liberals have been waiting for decades to weaken and destroy Prop 13. Now their wait is about over.


101 posted on 11/03/2010 1:32:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave

I do think the drawback to Prop 13, is that it created an excuse for the State to step in with more funding for things that should have been funded at the local level.

I am all for cutting taxes, but more at the State and Federal level. I believe that most of the taxes we pay should be for local taxes and the local municipalities controlling that spending, where there is more control over what that money is spent on. The money has to come from somewhere, and where that money comes from will determine who has the power over that money. All Prop 13 did was pass the burden onto the State, and even the Federal level, and the liberals will use any excuse to expand their power.


102 posted on 11/03/2010 1:41:53 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN; SierraWasp; tubebender

“My wife is close to retirement. It is time to begin looking for a new home (any where outside California)”

My wife still works one day a week, and we have grown sons, a great DIL and grandkids plus a good core of friends here in close to where we live.

I would like to sell our home on a reverse mortgage and stay in it from June-September, and move to the Florida Keys for the rest of the year. My wife is against that at this time.

We don’t do well with high humidity and heat and have DNA’s which love oceans/beaches/kayaking and eating good seafood.

If we weren’t in a culture/survival war with Mexico, we would live on the Mexican coast 6 months or more.


103 posted on 11/03/2010 1:43:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: dfwgator

Actually Gerry Brown and his henchman Gray Davis before prop 13 had passed the taxes down to the local level, and that was started the revolt.

The tax and spenders at both levels had cash printing presses in each home in California. All they had to do was increase our property taxes to pay for their voting scum and to line their pockets.

The reversal caused by Prop 13 caused the deficit in the state budget and Brown turned the surplus he inherited from Reagan in a rotten deficit.


104 posted on 11/03/2010 1:47:28 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: Grampa Dave
and have DNA’s which love oceans/beaches/kayaking and eating good seafood. and FLY FISHING. I fixed that for you grampa...
105 posted on 11/03/2010 1:48:45 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Grampa Dave

Now of course if the local taxes were simply funneled to Sacramento, instead of staying in the municipality, I could definitely understand the revolt.


106 posted on 11/03/2010 1:50:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: SmithL

Conservative CA voters should do everything they can to vote in only one way...with their feet.


107 posted on 11/03/2010 1:54:33 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Grampa Dave
Speaking of Sea Food you must save alum cans and dine at the The Sea Grill the next time you pass through Eureka. Sorry GD no food stamps accepted...
108 posted on 11/03/2010 1:54:32 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Frank_2001
Here’s a hint: the first thing he starts talking about is “education”,

He also said that ALL young people deserved the chance to go to collage, documented or not. He says CA is such a great state that we can make this possible.
Considering that the number one issue of Hispanic voters is said to be education, this along with Gloria Allard's scam, won him the election.
More than 75% of this state IS Hispanic I don't care what the exit polls say.

109 posted on 11/03/2010 2:26:19 PM PDT by alexandria ("If this be treason, make the most of it!" Patrick Henry)
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To: tubebender

Thanks.

The flyfishing is probably genetic.

I got the gene from my Dad, my older son got it from me, and our grandson got it from his Dad/my older son.


110 posted on 11/03/2010 2:50:04 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: SmithL

If it wasn’t for the injustice suffered by the innocent, it would be almost comical to watch the people of CA destroy themselves.


111 posted on 11/03/2010 3:13:52 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: ModelBreaker

You are so right, the CO people are slow learners too, but they have a lot of company in other states.


112 posted on 11/03/2010 3:18:01 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: SmithL
I predict that within 24 months Brown will be the MOST hated man in California.

He will TAX his way to TOTAL unpopularity of EPIC proportions.

113 posted on 11/03/2010 3:56:29 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: VideoDoctor
In Atlas Shrugged, California passed a confiscatory tax to help the unemployed, causing oil companies in the state to go out of business. The national government intervened.

Later, the state threatened to secede, and civil war broke out between Ma Chalmers' People's Party and the Back to God Party.

In the last chapter, farmers from the Imperial Valley fled California in horse-drawn covered wagons to avoid the civil war's land confiscators.

Looks like interesting times ahead.

114 posted on 11/03/2010 4:03:39 PM PDT by Publius (The government only knows how to turn gold into lead.)
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To: YankeeReb

Why do you say McMahon’s a RINO?


115 posted on 11/03/2010 6:55:24 PM PDT by lasereye
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To: Grampa Dave

I know, but since we can’t seem to do anything about it, we need to come up with a new and improved Scream Name to replace “Governor Moonbeam,” don’tcha think??? We gotta find a way to have fun at these moron Dem’s expense in this God-forsaken state.


116 posted on 11/03/2010 10:31:42 PM PDT by SierraWasp (May all your parties be TEA TOTALER parties!!! Elect 'em, then help 'em govern correctly!!!)
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To: kralcmot

I understand. But since there was such a groundswell based on voters who were angry about “business as usual”, they couldn’t have reconsidered their very dopey vote for a true, knuckleheaded loser? Moonbeam is going to finish the job of destroying that state and the rest of us are going to be forced to pay for their stupidity.

One thing I’m pretty sure of- the uber-wealthy celebrities out there certainly aren’t going to bail them out.


117 posted on 11/03/2010 10:31:50 PM PDT by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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To: Jim 0216; All
Sure like to see the breakdown of voters (welfare recipients, government employees, single mothers, illegals?).

Here you go: CBS CA exit polling data

118 posted on 11/04/2010 1:47:03 AM PDT by newzjunkey (A banner night for GOP nationwide & CAGOP lose everything by 10%?!)
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To: Russ

Obama/Dem strategy will be to blame the Republican-lead House for everything in 2012 no matter how false or unreasonable the assertion.


119 posted on 11/04/2010 1:49:59 AM PDT by newzjunkey (A banner night for GOP nationwide & CAGOP lose everything by 10%?!)
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To: CMAC51
There is no reason to try to help those who won’t help themselves.

Over 3 million of us voted GOP. The problem was 4 million, particularly in LA & SF, voted RAT.

As much as we'd like to "retake CA" I think we should each consider whether it's worth suffering what's to come. Even with GOP momentum having swept through the country in bad economic times, a majority of CA voters (4m vs 3m) see higher taxation and expanded gov't as the solution to high unemployment, chronic budget deficits and piled-high debt.

This isn't an empty claim about Brown voters, it's explicitly specified in CBS' exit polling data for Brown vs Whitman.

We each have a couple months to consider relocation to a state that isn't fiscally suicidal. Native born, I'm physically ill at the CA election result.

120 posted on 11/04/2010 2:23:20 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA GOP lost by 10%?! 3m voters chose sanity; 4m chose fiscal suicide.)
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