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Globalization Creates Unemployment, American Job Losses Are Permanent
The Market Oracle ^ | 10-28-2010 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 10/28/2010 6:37:50 PM PDT by blam

Globalization Creates Unemployment, American Job Losses Are Permanent

Politics / Employment
Oct 28, 2010 - 04:59 AM
By: Paul Craig Roberts

Now that a few Democrats and the remnants of the AFL-CIO are waking up to the destructive impact of jobs offshoring on the US economy and millions of American lives, globalism’s advocates have resurrected Dartmouth economist Matthew Slaughter’s discredited finding of several years ago that jobs offshoring by US corporations increases employment and wages in the US.

At the time I exposed Slaughter’s mistakes, but economists dependent on corporate largess understood that it was more profitable to drink Slaughter’s kool-aid than to tell the truth. Recently the US Chamber of Commerce rolled out Slaughter’s false argument as a weapon against House Democrats Sandy Levin and Tim Ryan, and the Wall Street Journal had Bill Clinton’s Defense Secretary, William S. Cohen, regurgitate Slaughter’s claim on its op-ed page on October 12.

I sent a letter to the Wall Street Journal, but the editors were not interested in what a former associate editor and columnist for the paper and President Reagan’s Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy had to say. The facade of lies has to be maintained at all costs. There can be no questioning that globalism is good for us.

Cohen told the Journal’s readers that “the fact is that for every job outsourced to Bangalore, nearly two jobs are created in Buffalo and other American cities.” I bet Buffalo “and other American cities” would like to know where these jobs are. Maybe Slaughter, Cohen, and the Chamber of Commerce can tell them.

Last May I was in St. Louis and was struck by block after block of deserted and boarded up homes, deserted factories and office buildings, even vacant downtown storefronts. Detroit is trying to shrink itself by 40 square miles. On October 25, 60 Minutes had a program on unemployment in Silicon Valley, where formerly high-earning professionals have been out of work for two years and today cannot even find part-time $9 an hour jobs at Target.

The claim that jobs offshoring by US corporations increases domestic employment in the US is one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated. As I demonstrated in my syndicated column at the time and again in my book, How The Economy Was Lost (2010), Slaughter reached his erroneous conclusion by counting the growth in multinational jobs in the U.S. without adjusting the data to reflect the acquisition of existing firms by multinationals and for existing firms turning themselves into multinationals by establishing foreign operations for the first time. There was no new multinational employment in the U.S. Existing employment simply moved into the multinational category from a change in the status of firms to multinational.

If Slaughter (or Cohen) had consulted the Bureau of Labor Statistics nonfarm payroll jobs data, he would have been unable to locate the 5.5 million jobs that were allegedly created. In my columns I have reported for about a decade the details of new jobs creation in the U.S. as revealed by the BLS data, as has Washington economist Charles McMillion. Over the last decade, the net new jobs created in the U.S. have nothing to do with multinational corporations. The jobs consist of waitresses and bartenders, health care and social services (largely ambulatory health care), retail clerks, and while the bubble lasted, construction.

These are not the high-tech, high-paying jobs that the “New Economy” promised, and they are not jobs that can be associated with global corporations. Moreover, these domestic service jobs are themselves scarce.

But facts have nothing to do with it. Did Slaughter, Cohen, the Chamber, and the Wall Street Journal ever wonder how it was possible to have simultaneously millions of new good-paying middle class jobs and virtually the worst income inequality in the developed world with all income gains accruing to the mega-rich?

In mid-October Treasury Secretary and Goldman Sachs puppet Tim Geithner gave a speech in California in the backyard, or former backyard, of 60 Minutes’ Silicon Valley dispossessed upper middle class interviewees in which Geithner said that the solution is to “educate more engineers.”

We already have more engineers than we have jobs for them. In a recent poll a Philadelphia marketing and research firm, Twentysomething, found that 85% of recent college graduates planned to move back home with parents. Even if members of the “boomeranger generation” find jobs, the jobs don’t pay enough to support an independent existence.

The financial media is useless. Reporters repeat the lie that the unemployment rate is 9.6%. This is a specially concocted unemployment rate that does not count most of the unemployed. The government’s own more inclusive rate stands at 17%. Statistician John Williams, who counts unemployment the way it is supposed to be counted, finds the unemployment rate to be 22%.

The financial press turns bad news into good news. Recently a monthly gain of 64,000 new private sector jobs was hyped, jobs that were more than offset by the loss in government jobs. Moreover, it takes around 150,000 new jobs each month to keep pace with labor force growth. In other words, 100,000 new jobs each month would be a 50,000 jobs deficit.

The idiocy of the financial press is demonstrated by the following two headlines which appeared on October 19 on the same Bloomberg page:

“Dollar Index Appreciates as Geithner Supports Currency Strength”

“Geithner Weak Dollar Seen as U.S. Recovery Route”

To keep eyes off of the loss of jobs to offshoring, policymakers and their minions in the financial press blame US unemployment on alleged currency manipulation by China and on the financial crisis. The financial crisis itself is blamed by Republicans on low income Americans who took out mortgages that they could not afford.

In other words, the problem is China and the greedy American poor who tried to live above their means. With this being the American mindset, you can see why nothing can be done to save the economy.

No government will admit its mistakes, especially when it can blame foreigners. China is being made the scapegoat for American failure. An entire industry has grown up that points its finger at China and away from 20 years of corporate offshoring of US jobs and 9 years of expensive and pointless US wars.

“Currency manipulation” is the charge. However, the purpose of the Chinese peg to the US dollar is not currency manipulation. When the Chinese government decided to take its broken communist economy into a market economy, the government understood that it needed foreign confidence in its currency. It achieved that by pegging its currency to the dollar, signaling that China’s money was as sound as the US dollar. At that time, China, of course, could not credibly give its currency a higher dollar value.

As time has passed, the irresponsible and foolish policies of the US have eroded the dollar’s value, and as the Chinese currency is pegged to the dollar, its value has moved down with the dollar. The Chinese have not manipulated the peg in order to make their currency less valuable.

To the contrary, when I was in China in 2006, the exchange rate was a little more than 8 yuan to the dollar. Today it is 6.6 yuan to the dollar--a 17.5% revaluation of the yuan.

The US government blames the US trade deficit with China on an undervalued Chinese currency. However, the Chinese currency has risen 17.5% against the dollar since 2006, but the US trade deficit with China has not declined.

The major cause of the US trade deficit with China is “globalism” or the practice, enforced by Wall Street and Wal-Mart, of US corporations offshoring their production for US markets to China in order to improve the bottom line by lowering labor costs. Most of the tariffs that the congressional idiots want to put on “Chinese” imports would, therefore, fall on the offshored production of US corporations. When these American brand goods, such as Apple computers, are brought to US markets, they enter the US as imports. Thus, the tariffs will be applied to US corporate offshored output as well as to the exports of Chinese companies to the US.

The correct conclusion is that the US trade deficit with China is the result of “globalism” or jobs offshoring, not Chinese currency manipulation.

An important point always overlooked is that the US is dependent on China for many manufactured products including high technology products that are no longer produced in the US. Revaluation of the Chinese currency would raise the dollar price of these products in the US. The greater the revaluation, the greater the price rise. The impact on already declining US living standards would be dramatic.

When US policymakers argue that the solution to America’s problems is a stronger Chinese currency, they are yet again putting the burden of adjustment on the out-of-work, indebted, and foreclosed American population.


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To: Will88

But there’s a reason why it costs so little for labor. Skilled laborers in China and India aren’t living in crowded huts with no electricity or running water. The cost of living is simply lower there. Why? Because if you don’t have to deal with so much government, then you can build a house cheaper, and live in it cheaper, and eat cheaper, etc. etc.

The cost is that they don’t have government protecting them from bad working conditions, shoddy construction, pollutants down to single digit ppm, emergency room care, payoffs at old age, unemployment, etc.


41 posted on 10/28/2010 7:50:58 PM PDT by dan1123 (Free condoms for teens to have safe sex is like giving them bullet-proof vests for safe gun play)
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To: proxy_user
"In a few years, about 50 million workers will be able to make all the goods the world requires, including food. Then what will everyone else do?"

This has happened so many time in history that we actually know a definitive answer: the rest will also be workers but producing the kinds of things that do not even exist today. What happened to the huge steno pools and then pools of typists that every corporation had just a few decades ago? Some became computer programmers, some others became administrative assistants.

Similar predictions are periodically made about the shortages of food on Earth and the inability of mankind to sustain itself, but those predictions are based on the inability to envision that new methods and sources of production will become available. That is what happened in history time and time again.

42 posted on 10/28/2010 7:52:47 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: KoRn
What we have allowed to happen done to this country with our manufacturing base has been an absolute disaster

Federal, State, and Local Tax policy is what is primarily responsible for jobs leaving (Union scum have done their part as well). DON'T BLAME MANUFACTURERS FOR LEAVING BECAUSE GOVERNMENTS HAVE MADE IT TOO EXPENSIVE MANUFACTURE HERE!


43 posted on 10/28/2010 7:56:46 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

Robots are creating jobs for Americans, just like automobiles have. Someone needs to build them, you know, and someone needs to fix them when they break. Someone needs to design them, program them and test them. Someone needs to design the factory floors where they operate and someone needs to build the factories to house them. Someone needs to pave the parking lots for the workers who still come to the factories, and tend the landscape for the building. Someone needs to supply the workers with their needs, office equipment, foodstuffs. Someone needs to train people how to run the robots and that means someone needs to provide classrooms and materials or supply internet courses and videos, which means someone will have to program the courses and shoot the videos.

Robots are good for a lot of someones.


44 posted on 10/28/2010 7:57:11 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: muawiyah

All good comments, but still, if the mechanization was replacing as many workers as some here think, it would soon become more feasible to move some of this highly mechanized work to the areas where most of it would be sold.


45 posted on 10/28/2010 7:58:10 PM PDT by Will88
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To: TopQuark

Interconnectedness = Gaia -speak.


46 posted on 10/28/2010 7:59:42 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Will88

That’s what happened with automobile parts. There are a number of other industries where it has been commonsense to relocate the greater part of the operation to the point of sale ~ abroad!


47 posted on 10/28/2010 8:01:08 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier

If you are a soldier, indeed, thank you for your service to our country. But I must add that robot mules are a great advance for American soldiers deployed in rugged terrains, and the flying robotic humvees under development will help protect troops from IEDs.


48 posted on 10/28/2010 8:02:45 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Fee
"When the US achieved sole super power after WW2"

It has not been a sole superpower after WW2; it has become such 50 years later, after the demise of the Soviet Union.

"leaving the US economic strategy to private corporations/banks."

No company on earth is responsible for economic strategy.

"American business men practice short term profit and concentrate solely on corporate/self interest at exclusion to all other long term issues."

That is a common misconception. You assume that (i) long-term issues are known and (ii) corporations simply ignore them. The truth is, people cannot predict the future beyond a couple-of-years horizon. The fist assumption is therefore false. It true that socialist regimes, such as those in Europe, pretend that a committee comprised of a few Ph.D.s can come up with a long-term plan. How come, then, they are so much behind the U.S.? How come their unemployment is consistently, for decades, is much higher than ours? If our banks are at fault, how come the socialists in Europe did not avoid the same crisis? Spain suffers now from 20% unemployment vs. 9.5% ours, and their housing crisis is as deep or deeper --- what happened to their long-term knowledge of "issues?"

The only difference between capitalist and socialist managers is that the former, unlike the latter, do not pretend to know far into the future. American businesses focus on short-term result because nobody knows that long-term results are. And they have been achieving better results for centuries in part because they do so.

49 posted on 10/28/2010 8:03:13 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Will88
NOTE: We almost moved to Sao Paolo back in the mid 1950s since the company my father worked for was starting up an engine factory there.

They expected a vast number of sales throughout South America.

Subsequently the international shipping container with it's intermodal capabilities (truck/rail/sea) has pretty much wiped out that advantage but more recent threats to make casting more expensive has the same engine manufacturing interests looking at EXPANDING operations in South America in the exact same places.

BTW, truck engines are are not exactly designed and built by an interlocking zaibatsu, but they are !!!!! The subcontracting in that line of business is truly incredible.

50 posted on 10/28/2010 8:06:23 PM PDT by muawiyah ("GIT OUT THE WAY" The Republicans are coming)
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To: dan1123

Obviously, the greater regulation and government interference in the US is a cost. But no one who wants to state that as the main reason for moving production to cheap labor nations ever quantifies that cost. Labor costs can be quantified, and the savings are immense.

Some are just so anti-government, or so unwilling to admit the role of cheap labor, that they choose to mention government regulations as if those are the main, or only reasons for the decisions to export US jobs.;

And do you really want the US to have the same environmental conditions as China? Did you see that they had to shut down plants for a few weeks prior to the Olympics so the air could clear somewhat? Did you see how they had thousands of workers filtering filth out of their rivers with small nets? Did you know that 2,000+ Chinese miners die each year in accidents? Do you really want the US to have the same environmental and work place conditions as China?


51 posted on 10/28/2010 8:07:30 PM PDT by Will88
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To: proxy_user
It is technology that is the primary culprit.

Namely "telecom", or simply the internet. White collar jobs can be done from anywhere, so Chinese and Indians don't even have to come here to take our jobs.

When I look at my sixties era economics textbook ( Samuelson ) it's evident that this eventuality falls outside the models considered there. Commerce between nations was assumed to consist in the trade of material goods.

In a few years, about 50 million workers will be able to make all the goods the world requires, including food.

Then what will everyone else do?

Invest! That seems to be the idea, but markets are volatile and capricious, especially in the circumstances you outline, where everybody is a capitalist and very few actually produce. Of course, we're seeing this now. Things really are changing fast and I don't think anybody knows how it's going to shake out.

I just hope we don't drift into monolithic world communism, which seems to be the liberal ideal these days. To me it's supremely ironic that liberals are pushing so hard to create the totalitarian nightmare that they always thought they were fighting.

52 posted on 10/28/2010 8:09:12 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: dan1123
Skilled laborers in China and India aren’t living in crowded huts with no electricity or running water.

No they live in 'dormitories' and sleep in their rooms in shifts. Was it Mattel corp. who happily announced the their toymakers in China could actually keep a radio in their 'dormitory' while they built paint poisoned toys for toddlers?

And the happy lot of chinese workers who gladly throw themselves to their deaths after working like slaves for Foxconn corporation building Iphones for Apple?

Slave labor,off shoring, it's all good.
53 posted on 10/28/2010 8:09:55 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: rottndog
"Federal, State, and Local Tax policy is what is primarily responsible for jobs leaving (Union scum have done their part as well). DON'T BLAME MANUFACTURERS FOR LEAVING BECAUSE GOVERNMENTS HAVE MADE IT TOO EXPENSIVE MANUFACTURE HERE!"

Oh, I TOTALLY agree! Our government(among other things) has stifled investment and entrepreneurship in our country, and has just made it a generally unfavorable place to do business. We must make our country a better all around place for business, and look at ways of leveling the playing field for us compared countries that use slave labor, lopsided currency valuation, and creates barriers to our products in their markets.....Enforce both Free AND FAIR trade.

54 posted on 10/28/2010 8:12:03 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: dr_lew

They couldn’t be done in India until the bush clinton and bush governments took our tax money and built an infrastructure, roads and powerplants, fixing the place up so the transnationals didn’t have to spend a penny of their own money.

Before that they had no reliable power supply or commerce infrastructure.

Isn’t it grand out the corrupt in our government use our taxes on earned wages to put wage earners here out of jobs and local businesses out of busines? It is so communist to do it that way!


55 posted on 10/28/2010 8:15:40 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Will88
"BS, off-shoring is caused by unskilled labor which cost around 5% of what it costs in the US, and by higher skilled and degreed workers available for 20% and less of US pay scales. "

Before you call something BS, you should learn how to count money, which you appear unable to do. Your numbers may refer to difference in salaries, but that is not the cost of labor. There is nothing more silly than resorting to name-calling while revealing ignorance of the subject.

56 posted on 10/28/2010 8:17:48 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: hedgetrimmer
I’ll give you the crony capitalism

I hope so, because what you described (all true, by the way), is very detailed crony capitalism. Cronys don't have to be American, or US citizens they just have to get government protection, or special favors, or have crippling government punishments imposed on competitors, you know the drill.

It's corrupt government employees and those close to them, unions, tort lawyers, the ruling elite.

57 posted on 10/28/2010 8:20:30 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: Will88
"that's just more than some trans-nationals think they should have to pay."

Oh, all those spooky transnationals. Does it occur to you, Will, that you own them? Does it occur to you that your retirement money comes from those decisions?

58 posted on 10/28/2010 8:21:34 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: muawiyah
There are a number of other industries where it has been commonsense to relocate the greater part of the operation to the point of sale ~ abroad!

It only makes sense as long as these US trans-nationals are able to take their free US market access for granted.

I have a standing prediction that someday the common practice will be: produce it where you plan to sell it, either in a large nation, or in an area that will serve smaller several small nations.

Nothing else makes sense, and this chasing the cheapest labor and most lax regulations is a practice that will be ended at some point. It will be ended politically in the US, and there are already rumblings from some quarters that sang different tunes not so long ago.

The US with a population of 300+ million, cannot continue to export and outsource all possible jobs to nations with populations that total about 3 billion. Those numbers alone will eventually force the US to end these practices because it cannot possible create new jobs to replace all the jobs that can be sent to cheap labor nations, a practice that will continue our high unemployment and diminished living standards for many citizens, as well as higher and higher government spending on support programs for low wage earners and the chronically unemployed.

59 posted on 10/28/2010 8:24:19 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Fee

China is the flavor of the moment. The herd mentality rushes for it out of desparation thinking short term.

Why China Is Really In Big Trouble

by Vitaly Katsenelson

An interview with Vitaliy Katsenelson, Chief Investment Officer, Investment Management Associates, Inc., and author of Active Value Investing. Vitaliy, who was born in Murmansk, Russia, and moved to the U.S. in 1991, from 2007 to 2007 was an adjunct faculty member at the University of Colorado at Denver’s Graduate School of Business.

TCR: What our readers are looking for is a better sense of China and Japan, both of which are very important in the context of the global economy. As we have to start somewhere, let’s start with China.

Today the conventional wisdom is that somehow the Chinese economy is better managed than its competitors, very similar to how people viewed Japan in the 1970s and 1980s. Back then people were absolutely convinced that Japan was the superior country with superior policies and that its economy was unstoppable. We all know how that ended.

So, let’s start there. Is China’s system better than everyone else’s? Is it really possible the Chinese economy can keep steamrolling along?

VK: A few months ago, I watched a movie about Ayn Rand and it talked about how Americans in the 1930s looked at the Soviet Union’s flavor of managed economy as being superior to the American version of capitalism. At the time America was just coming out of the Great Depression, so that view made a lot of sense. So in the short run, and especially after the ugly side of creative destruction has paid us a visit, the grass of managed economy may look greener.

So when we look at China, the conventional wisdom says that the government is very, very smart, and therefore they can do a very good job in steering the economy in the right way. Chinese government may have the best intentions, its leaders may have IQs of 250 each on a bad day, but it is impossible to centrally manage an economy of China’s size.

I am a big believer that in the boxing match between a visible and an invisible hand, though the invisible hand may lose a few rounds, it will win the match every time. Last century we had the most amazing economic experiment take place when after World War II, Germany was split into two countries with different economic and political systems. But they were the same people, with the same language and culture, separated by a wall. We know how that story ended.

Of course, for a time, having government control over the levers of the economy can have advantages. For example, by taking prompt action, the Chinese government was able to pull the economy out of the recession remarkably fast, basically by fire-housing the stimulus package that was equivalent to 12% GDP. That’s the advantage. The only problem is that these kinds of short-term advantages come with long-term, painful consequences.

For example, when you have a huge government presence in the economy, you also have a huge bureaucracy, and bureaucracy brings corruption. This is one of the reasons why China is rated so poorly on Transparency International’s annual corruption rating. Corruption breeds misallocation of capital, because the capital flows not to the best use, but it basically flows to whatever the political connection or whatever the bribe is directed to.

In addition, when you have a government-managed economy, it creates excesses. China has huge excesses in the industrial sector, as well as in commercial and residential real estate. We see plenty of evidence of these excesses, but they are likely to be much greater than we can measure today as they are covered up by robust economic growth. The true magnitude of these excesses will come to the surface once the economy slows down.

TCR: In essence, you’ve got a relatively small group of individuals who are making big decisions about China’s economy and where production should be, in what sectors, etc. If history is any guide, that really can’t last, yet many people seem to think it can. That said, China’s economy has certainly done remarkably well in the global economic crisis. In fact, according to their government, their GDP is almost back to where it was pre-crash. Why?

VK: Sure, the growth you see today in China is there, but it’s not a sustainable growth. It’s not a growth that you’ll see a few years from now. That is an important point for readers to understand.

TCR: Why is it not sustainable?

VK: Because the growth is being induced by government spending, by a misallocation of capital.

I’ll give you an example. The vacancy rate on commercial real estate in China is fairly high, but they still keep on building new office buildings because they think they will always grow. So therefore as long as they keep building, that activity will be registered as growth, until they stop. And when they do stop, they’ll drown in overcapacity, and they won’t be building new skyscrapers for a very long time.

TCR: We read that note you sent about the South China Mall, which is pretty stunning. It’s the second largest mall in the world but is mostly empty.

VK: That’s right. But as outrageous an example as the South China Mall is, there’s an even more outrageous example – namely that the Chinese built an entire city, Ordos, in Inner Mongolia for 1.5 million residents and it is completely empty. These are classic examples of the sort of excesses going on in China.

TCR: The equivalent of building bridges to nowhere, but on a very large – Chinese – scale.

VK: Exactly. There are no shortcuts to greatness. As long as they keep building new bridges, the economic numbers will register that there is growth, but at some point the piper will have to be paid, and these projects have a negative return on capital.

TCR: It seems the Chinese are following the script Japan used to dig itself out of its postwar doldrums, deliberately keeping their currency low in order to build an economy on the back of low-cost manufacturing. But that game inevitably has to end – already we see more and more things being made in Indonesia, Pakistan, India, and so forth. If China loses the manufacturing core of their economy, won’t they be in big trouble?

VK: Well, once you move manufacturing to other countries, it’s very difficult to get it back. So you could probably argue that China will maintain its manufacturing advantage for a while.

The problem with China is pretty much same as with any bubble. Though it may have had a solid foundation under it, it is simply a good thing taken too far. If you look at the railroad bubble in the United States, the country did need railroads, but we built too many.

The same thing happened with the technology bubble in 1998. The Internet was transformative to our economy, no question about it. But, again, it was taken too far.

There are some other countries that are lower-cost producers than China, but they probably can’t do it on the same scale that China can. But my point is that China is just a good thing taken too far, and if you add government involvement and corruption into the mix, you will get a bubble that is taken a lot further than you would normally expect.

One way of thinking about it is that the actions taken by the Chinese government, especially after the recent global recession, have basically supersized the bubble that was already forming.

TCR: Their government is sort of a holdover from a largely bygone era when many nations were communists, so isn’t it true that they need to maintain some fairly strong forward momentum, otherwise they could run into some political problems? Is that why they were so quick to unleash the massive stimulus or encourage their banks to lend an amazing amount of money? You have a chart showing those loans amounted to 29% of GDP in 2009. What kind of quality of lending can that be?

VK: Let’s try to understand why the Chinese government did the things they did. As everyone knows, the Chinese economy grew at a very high rate for a long period of time. When the global economy slowed down, their economy slowed down as well (though official numbers did not show it). The Chinese government is extremely concerned about the economy slowing down because that is likely to lead to political unrest. A lot of that potential friction comes because a lot of people moved from villages to the cities. China has an almost nonexistent social safety net system. So people who lose jobs don’t complain, they riot.

So, yes, the Chinese government is afraid of political unrest, and therefore they quickly released a tremendous amount of stimulus into the economy, then followed it up with encouraging bank loans equal to 29% of GDP in 2009, a huge increase. When you infuse this much debt into an economy, it’s impossible to have good capital allocation decisions. While the economy is growing, the bad debt won’t be so apparent, but it certainly will be when the economic growth slows.

A good analogy might be that when you analyze a credit card company that is growing very, very fast, and that has opened new accounts, you don’t see the bad debt because that debt is covered up by new loans. The true nature of the past lending decisions only becomes obvious when the company’s growth falls off.

One way to think about the Chinese economy is by comparing it to the bus in the movie Speed with Keanu Reeves and Dennis Hopper. In the movie, a bus was wired with explosives that would blow up if the bus’s speed dropped below 50 miles an hour.

Since China is manufacturer to the world, that manufacturing business comes with a lot of fixed costs. Factories, equipment need financing, and they are mainly financed by debt – another fixed cost. The high level of fixed costs doesn’t afford China an economic slowdown, but when it happens, the consequences will be dire. High fixed costs are great when revenues are rising as income grows at a faster rate than sales. But they are devastating to profitability when sales decline: costs decline at a slower rate than sales and you start losing money, fast.

TCR: Interestingly, there’s clearly a slowdown in the U.S. and Europe, China’s two biggest markets, so you would assume that China’s export industries would have suffered a fairly sharp decline since the go-go days before the crash. That has to be putting pressure on their growth. How important to the Chinese is it that the U.S. and the European economies recover and Western consumers get back into the game?

VK: I think a return of U.S. and European consumers is extremely important to the health of the Chinese economy. Some analysts think China’s internal demands can overcome the demand decline from U.S. and European consumers, and I think it is possible in the long run. But in the short run, I don’t think that’s possible. Let me explain the reasons for that.

Chinese consumers represent one-third of a 5-trillion-dollar economy. If you look at the size of the U.S. and European Union together, they are equal to a 30-trillion-dollar economy, and the consumers there constitute about two-thirds of those economies.

So on the one hand, you have U.S. and European consumers representing 20 trillion dollars in purchases, versus Chinese consumers at about 2 trillion dollars. In other words, U.S. and European consumers are 10 times the size of the Chinese consumers. As a result, a very small change in consumption in the U.S. and Europe has to be overcompensated by a huge increase in consumption in China, and that is going to be very difficult to do, especially considering that the Chinese currency is kept at artificially low levels. That, of course, diminishes the purchasing power of the Chinese consumer. Over time the Chinese consumer will play a larger role in the economy, but it’s going to take a decade, not months – not even a few years.

TCR: You’re pretty bearish on the outlook for China; do you have a theory about what might trip them up? What’s the thing that readers should be watching for that would suggest things are starting to unravel?

VK: It’s very difficult to know exactly what’s going to be the straw that breaks the camel’s back. It could be a slowdown in the Japanese economy, or a double-dip in the U.S., or some other factors that are not apparent to us today. It could be just the simple fact that the Chinese government is trying to put the brakes on the economy and mistakenly does too much.

I don’t trust government-reported statistics, thus I’d watch numbers that the Chinese government is less likely to fudge: electricity consumption, which was down during the global recession, same-store sales of American fast food restaurants in China, tonnage of goods shipped through railroads, and, though they may lag, sales by American and European companies in China.

TCR: If you look at inputs like copper imports and even copper stocks in Shanghai, by all appearances China is at least pretending that it’s business as usual. In fact, I think in August they imported 22% more refined copper than they did the year before. But if this is just to build bridges to nowhere, then it supports the idea that this is not going to be sustainable.

VK: That’s right. That is the problem with looking at this kind of data, because a lot of it is going to building things that have a negative return on capital. Therefore, you look at the data and the data does not really tell you that much – until it does. Because, basically, it’s the government’s involvement that is driving a lot of the demand.

You can make the same argument that the U.S. economy was doing great in 2004, 2005, 2006, despite the obvious problems in real estate and its financial system. Likewise, a lot of people said great things about what was going on in Japan in the late ‘80s. Of course, the U.S., and Japan before it, were experiencing huge real estate bubbles that few saw as being a problem, until they were.

There was an article in the Wall Street Journal a couple of weeks ago talking about a Chinese state-owned enterprise that operated salt mines, but now it’s building office parks. Those are kind of the signs you start seeing in an economy in the late stages of a bubble, where a state-owned enterprise starts building real estate projects because it’s almost like you can’t lose money doing this. But one thing that makes predicting the end of this bubble very difficult is the amount of firepower the Chinese government has. The government can drive this bubble further than a rational observer would expect.

TCR: Because they’ve got so much in the way of reserves?

VK: Because they have a significant influence over the economy. Chinese government can force banks to lend and can force companies to borrow and spend (or build).

TCR: On the topic of real estate, I was speaking to a very well-off Chinese friend recently who had bought a very expensive apartment in Beijing. When I asked him about buying at bubble prices, he commented that it really didn’t matter. The money was almost irrelevant, given the status that came from having an apartment in that particular part of town. He said it was very good for his business and that he didn’t really plan on using it very much. It was an interesting perspective, how he saw real estate.

VK: In the same way that everyone in the United States decided they “must” own a house, this belief was reinforced by continuously rising house prices. You can see how big a problem this became in big cities such as Beijing and Shanghai where the affordability ratio is horrible, so the property-value-to-income ratio in Beijing is pushing 15. In Shanghai it is over 12. If you look at the national average, it is over eight times.

TCR: Can you explain that ratio to our readers?

VK: You get the ratio by taking the property value and dividing it by annual disposable income.

Basically, if you spent all your money, after you paid your taxes, just to pay off the mortgage, it would take you 14 years – which means you didn’t pay for food, electricity, etc.

This ratio is important because it helps put the scale of the Chinese real estate bubble in its proper context. In Tokyo, at the peak of the massive Japanese bubble, the ratio stood at nine times. In Beijing it’s already 14 times. In Shanghai it’s over 12 times. The national average for China is pushing 8.2 times right now. So housing affordability is very, very low, and the housing prices are extremely high.

Here is another interesting piece of data: property investment in China in 2009 was 10% of GDP, up from 8% in 2007. In Japan, at the peak of its bubble, it did not exceed 9%; in the U.S. it never exceeded 6%.

A recent study found that 64.5 million apartments basically don’t use electricity because they are empty. Chinese people buy those condos, and they don’t rent them. Similar to new cars in the U.S. when taken off the lot, in China an apartment is worth less once rented out. So they just keep them unoccupied with the hope to flip them, and you know how that story ends.

TCR: Yes, after Japan’s real estate bubble collapsed, prices in the major cities fell by about two-thirds and have rebounded only very little from the post-crash lows.

If a lot of Chinese lost a lot of money in real estate, one has to assume they’re going to be very unhappy. I recall a conversation with another Chinese man who lives in the States half a year and in Beijing half the year. When I asked him about the real estate bubble in China, his comment was, “Well, the government would never let it fall,” and he said the same thing was true of their stock market. To put it mildly, he had an inordinate amount of faith in the Chinese government’s ability to prop up bubbles.

VK: As you can tell from my accent, I was born in Russia and spent half of my life in Soviet Russia. From my direct experience, the Russian propaganda machine was very, very powerful, and so many people believed how smart the leaders were and that they could do nothing wrong.

China is not that much different from Russia in that respect. Due to the government’s control of the media, the average citizen has been brainwashed into thinking of the government with respect. They has led to an unconditional belief that the Chinese government walks on water, that the laws of economics are somehow suspended when they touch things (except they also did a fine job convincing not just their own citizens but the West as well). Sure, they have a greater control of the economy, but at the long-term cost we talked about earlier. That’s point number one.

Point number two can be understood by asking why people are buying those apartments, why are they buying this real estate? In part it is because if they put money in the bank – where the government basically sets the rates on savings accounts and the checking deposits – they are getting very little interest on their savings. Therefore they look at real estate as basically a form of savings.

Some analysts will argue that it can’t be a bubble because of the lack of leverage, given that in China you have to put 30%-40% down when you buy an apartment. It is a large down payment. But think about how much wealth will be destroyed when real estate prices decline – and that in itself could trigger a serious crisis in China because it would destroy a lot of wealth, and that could lead to political unrest. So that would be very important psychologically and for the political stability of the Chinese economy.

TCR: What would typically trigger the end of this real estate bubble?

VK: To some degree, a real estate bubble is like a Ponzi scheme. As long as there is an incremental buyer, prices keep going up, but at some point everybody who wants to buy a house has bought a house, so when an incremental buyer is not there, the prices start declining and then it becomes self-feeding. It’s very difficult to time the end, but there is always an end.

TCR: What about commercial real estate?

VK: If you look at commercial real estate, it’s often one subsidiary that is borrowing money from another subsidiary to put a down payment to build or buy a building. And a lot of times land is used as collateral. As land prices decline, so the loan-to-value ratio can jump through the roof very quickly when real estate prices collapse.

TCR: Talk a little about the renminbi. The Chinese government has been making noises about possibly allowing it to rise against the dollar, but from a practical standpoint, can they actually afford to let that happen?

VK: They could let it rise on a very gradual basis, but they absolutely cannot allow it to rise very rapidly because that would quickly diminish the value of the foreign reserves. But there is a conundrum. When the Chinese economy bursts, there is a very good chance the renminbi will actually depreciate, because you are going to have a flight of capital leaving China. So right now you may argue that China’s currency is too cheap, but during the crisis it’s probably going to get cheaper.

TCR: What’s your general sense about how much longer they can keep the game going before they collapse? And is collapse the right word?

VK: I really don’t know. In the case of Japan, their government basically ran out of chips. I think the Chinese government still has enough chips to keep the bubble going awhile longer. These bubbles usually last longer than the reputation of the person who predicts their demise.

TCR: Do you think it will occur within a decade?

VK: I think so, yes. GMO became famous for predicting the Japanese bubble collapse, but they started predicting it in 1986, so they were “wrong” for a while because it actually burst in 1989-1990. The point being, these bubbles typically last longer than you would expect, but it’s going to burst.

TCR: Let’s talk for a minute about some of the potential implications of a bursting Chinese bubble. There are some fairly obvious ones, like Chinese real estate, but there are a lot of somewhat less obvious consequences, for example the hit this would cause to the Australian economy because its export sector depends heavily on China.

VK: China has been responsible for a very large portion, if not all, of incremental demand for commodities in recent years. If you’re talking about copper, about oil, or pretty much all the industrial commodities, China was responsible for a very large portion of the demand. When the economy slows down and the bubble bursts, then the demand for those commodities will decline dramatically.

It’s going to impact economies that benefitted tremendously from China’s ascent, so Australia will be impacted, Russia will be impacted because oil prices will decline and Russia is basically a commodity-driven nation. Brazil will be impacted. Any economy you can think of that benefitted from China’s ascent will get hurt from its descent as well.

Let me clarify this. I’m not saying that China will cease to exist or that it’s going back to the stone-age – I’m saying there is a bubble and it’s going to burst. It’s going to go through readjustments.

TCR: But it will be a serious crisis.

VK: The bubble burst will have significant consequences.

TCR: So you’d be cautious on sort of base commodities.

VK: Yes. But also think about industrial goods. Getting commodities out of the ground, building empty shopping malls, ghost towns, and bridges to nowhere requires a lot of equipment. Industrial goods companies benefitted tremendously from Chinese demand. In the past, those were very cyclical companies, and it seems like this time they almost didn’t have a normal cycle. They declined but then came back very fast because the demand came back very fast, and a lot of that demand came from China.

TCR: And what would you invest in, are there any opportunities you see?

VK: Unless you short stocks, it’s very difficult to see an opportunity in a Chinese downturn. As a portfolio manager, I look at it as a risk, and I say, all right, what can I do to immunize my portfolio from that risk. I have very little exposure to commodities and industrial stocks, and very little exposure to countries that will get hurt from China’s bursting bubble – the countries we mentioned, like Australia, Brazil, Russia, etc.

TCR: Canada would have to be on that list.

VK: Yes, very true.

TCR: Let’s talk briefly about Japan. Bud Conrad, our chief economist, has done a lot of looking at Japan and concludes that it’s basically past the point of no return. What are your general thoughts on the implications of that country tipping back into a serious crisis? After all, it’s a very big economy, and so that would have to have a big impact on the world.

VK: Japan’s story is very simple. The economy slowed down in the 1990s. To keep the economy growing, the government lowered taxes and increased government spending, sending budget deficits up. In order to finance those deficits, the amount of government debt has tripled.

The only reason they were able to finance that debt was because over 90% of the government debt was purchased internally; therefore, thanks to Japanese interest rates declining from 7.5% to 1.4%, the government was able to dramatically increase the amount of debt without the total borrowing costs going up.

Today, Japan is one of the most indebted nations in the developed world, and its population demographics are horrible because every fourth Japanese is over 65 years old. There’s no immigration into Japan, and the population is aging rapidly, and the savings rate went from the middle teens to quickly approaching zero.

TCR: So there is less demand for Japanese government bonds.

VK: Yes, exactly. With the demand for Japanese bonds declining, they are going to have to start shopping their debt outside of Japan, and the second they do, they’ll realize that no rational buyer would buy Japanese debt yielding 1.4% when they can buy U.S. debt or German debt with yields double that.

So the Japanese are going to have to start paying high interest rates, and they can’t afford that, because one-quarter of the tax revenues already goes to servicing their debt. If their interest rates were to double to just 2.8%, it basically wipes out the funding for the country’s Departments of Defense and Education. So this is a situation where they go from deflation to hyperinflation, because they’re going to have to start printing money to be able to keep paying off their debt, so this is the case where they are going just from one extreme to another.

TCR: Their economy has been hugely helped by their trade surplus, but their trade surplus has been going down steadily, in no small part because China has been stealing market share.

VK: Exactly. A lot of manufacturing went to China from Japan, so that hurt the economy too.

So when you ask me about what could trigger Chinese problems, well, you know, Japan is still a big trading partner for China, so Japan’s decline would impact China as well, and vice versa.

TCR: We have heard a lot about Japanese demographics. That seems to be an intractable problem.

VK: Recently I heard that the Japanese were considering trying to solve their demographic problems by allowing immigration from China to Japan. I almost fell off my chair when I heard that, because there is a lot of animosity between the two countries. They love each other as much as Armenians love Turks, so it’s very difficult for me to see that happening just because of the cultural issues going on.

TCR: And it seems that the tensions are actually getting much worse.

VK: Too true. But the key point is that Japan is past the point of no return. It’s like the Titanic has already hit the iceberg and you know it’s going to sink, you just don’t know just how long it will take to go down. That’s basically what is taking place in Japan.

TCR: Sticking with that metaphor, it seems like people need to begin donning life jackets and edging toward the nearest lifeboat.

So we’ve got some serious issues with Asia, which obviously will have some global implications. How does this tie back to the U.S.? Our take has been that – at least on a short-term basis – when things start to come unglued, it will benefit the U.S. as a purported “safe harbor,” but then people will begin to realize that if two out of three of the world’s biggest economies can fall, so can the U.S.

VK: In the short run, it may benefit the U.S. dollar because the value of currencies is relative, right? As my friend Barry Pasikov says – the U.S. dollar is valedictorian in summer school. So if people are afraid of Japan, afraid of China, they would be running towards the U.S. currency. By the way, the Japanese currency made a 15-year high recently suggesting what could be the trade of the decade.

I’m a value investor, so I generally don’t spend much time on currencies, but I think this is a case where shorting Japanese yen makes a lot of sense.

It may work against you for a while, but in the long run, I think it could turn out to be the trade of the decade.

Again, I think the U.S. dollar might benefit in the short run, but don’t overlook that China and Japan are the largest foreign holders of U.S. debt. If Japan becomes a net seller of U.S. debt and their debt starts competing with U.S. debt, then that’s going to be negative for our economy because we are going to have high interest rates. If China also becomes a net seller of U.S. debt, again, it’s negative for our economy.

The big question, once they start selling, is how fast will they sell their U.S. debt. If they sell it very fast, maybe because they have to, it’s going to drive our interest rates higher. If it’s something that develops over a long period of time, it may not drive our interest rates as much as you would think.

TCR: But ultimately, if they hit a real bump in the road, they’re going to have to start selling.

VK: Exactly. Plus, the Japanese government bonds will start competing with our bonds. In the past the Japanese people were able to consume the government debt internally, down the road the government is going to have to start selling its bonds to the same people who are buying our bonds, and instead of paying 1-2%, they’ll have to start paying 5, 6, 7%.

TCR: Which would be devastating for the Japanese economy, given the scale of their debt.

VK: Absolutely, At that point, they are going to have a very high inflation because they’ll be forced to print a lot of money.

TCR: Not a very positive outlook but I think very useful. You’ve written a book about managing a portfolio in sideways markets. What’s your advice to investors at this point?

VK: I just finished a book titled The Little Book of Sideways Markets. It is a follow-up to Active Value Investing I wrote in 2007. My research leads me to believe that the U.S. markets will continue their sideways journey over the next decade, much as they did in the previous decade.

In such markets, the traditional buy-and-hold approach doesn’t really work, so you need to modify your approach, starting with the idea that you want to become a buy-and-sell investor. You want to buy stocks when they’re undervalued, but when they become fairly valued, you want to sell them.

Secondly, in the absence of good stocks to buy, you should be willing to hold more cash. I’m not an advocate of trying to time the market but rather saying that if you look at the market and you don’t see stocks that meet your criteria, just hold more cash. The opportunity cost of holding cash is a lot lower in this environment than it would be in a cyclic bull market.

Third, you want to favor stocks with a high dividend yield. You don’t want to buy stocks just because of the dividends, but if, everything else being equal, you can find stocks that have an above-average yield, that’s going to become very important in this environment because in the past dividends accounted for 90% of the return during the sideways markets.

Fourth, you basically want to increase your margin of safety. If a value investor typically looks to buy a dollar for, let’s say, 70 cents, I would recommend start looking for dollars selling for 50 or even 40 cents. That’s point number four, and it’s extremely important.

The book walks readers through the fundamentals of investing in sideways markets, and I think it will help most investors do well in what will be an otherwise challenging environment.

TCR: When is the book out?

VK: In mid-November.

TCR: We look forward to reading it – and maybe having a separate conversation on those concepts in a future edition of The Casey Report.

VK: That would be great.

Vitaliy N. Katsenelson, CFA, is Chief Investment Officer at Investment Management Associates in Denver, Colo.

Or another take:

China Hits A Great Wall

By Gordon Chang

China, the land of “a million truths” and the fastest-changing society on earth, defies prediction. But I will boldly go where no prognosticator dares to tread. Here are three definitive statements about China in the next decade.

The first: This period will be known as “China’s century.” China has just passed Japan to become the planet’s second-largest economy, and the Chinese have big boy U.S. in their gun sights.

But China’s century will be short, a few years at most, the quickest hundred years in world history. By the end of 2011 Chinese growth rates will fall from double-digit territory. Gross domestic product will begin a decade-long slide.

How can this be? After all, China now has the world’s fastest-growing economy after Singapore. But super-fast growth is just a mirage. China should be following the example of the United States, which is adjusting to a world with fewer coal mines, trinket factories and handbag retailers.

Instead, the State Council, Beijing’s cabinet, decided in November 2008 to use government spending to avoid the pain of adjustment. So, after pouring a cool $1.1 trillion of stimulus into its economy last year, growth reached a scorching 11.1% in the first half of this one. Unfortunately, China has too much of most things. Residential apartments? Would you believe 80 million vacant ones? That might be an underestimate. The vacancy rate in new buildings is well over 50%. In Beijing it looks like it is over 65%.

There are only two possible scenarios. There will be a property market crash—this is what would happen in almost any other country—or the central government will artificially support the market. Chinese leaders will likely choose the second path, forcing them to take steps that will lead to years of negligible growth. Think Japan post-bubble. China will out-stagnate the Japanese. By 2013 Japan will overtake China and become, once again, the world’s second-largest economy.

Second, by 2015 there will be an environmental disaster producing 2 million refugees. Every season seems to produce a catastrophe of some sort. This year, China experienced the worst drought since the Ming dynasty. Some Chinese, taking their cue from starving North Koreans, scavenged wild plants as crops withered in the fields. Then came the rains, forcing some 250,000 to flee their homes during just one of the many storms.

Two million homeless from a single event? That’s not such a wild prediction. The World Bank thinks there might be as many as 30 million environmental refugees in China by 2020, not from a one-off catastrophe but from the general lack of water.

Third, China will reach its population peak by 2020. Demographers now think that will happen sometime between 2025 and 2030. Yet they have consistently underestimated the deceleration of population growth. Beijing’s statisticians, to their credit, have begun to admit how much they have been wrong.

China will continue to slow down. The abnormal sex ratio at birth—officially, there are over 119 males for every 100 females—will get worse. There will, in short, not be enough females. And, frankly, Chinese women in large cities, like their counterparts throughout East Asia, are rejecting centuries-old social norms and deferring childbirth or skipping it altogether. Decades of Beijing’s audacious population policies—first encouraging uncontrolled growth and then clamping down hard—will take their toll.

So ditch the assumptions you currently hold about China. One decade from now, the nation will be unrecognizable.

Also I’d recommend reading “Empire of Lies: The truth about China in the 21st Century” by Gordon Sorman.


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