Posted on 10/18/2010 9:10:24 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I have come to believe that Libertarians are worthless. Before them, a crop of wonderful, small government candidates sit and will likely winscores of points of optimism in a political sky that has been bleak and black. To coin a word from the opposition, theres Hope.
Now, most of us watching this election realize that the exhausting work over the last two years has hardly begun. Once this new crop become part of the system, theyll have to be watched and held accountable.
The most optimistic change, then, hasnt really been these candidates. Its been the heart of the American people. Citizens have decided that theyve sat on their duffs long enough. Its time to get involved. Its time to stay involved.
The candidates arent perfect. No politicians are perfect. Hells bells. Theyre human and mere vessels for the expression of the voters will.
So, I read Doug Mataconis piece about why Libertarians are still disenchanted even with the best electoral hope in a generation presents itself. I feel absolute disgust.
Kvetching about the social issues of a Christine ODonnell while ignoring the economic liberties that Mike Castle would have assuredly stripped had he had his way makes no sense. How on earth can a true Libertarian even worry about such irrelevance?
(Excerpt) Read more at libertypundits.net ...
And they have until 2012 to produce results (in terms of cutting back government interference), or they END.
When you want to repeal the plethora of victimless personal-conduct laws, get back to us.
Conservatives ask for everyone to have an equal right to representation on how issues of life, sexuality, etc are dealt with in public.
Liberals ask for everyone to have an equal right to representation on how issues of expenditure, employment, etc are dealt with in public. The two positions are equally based on commonism, and equally unacceptable.
No one has any such "need" Immoral people have the desire to forcibly impose their personal preferences.
They also keep bringing up the argument that the (big-government social) issues where libertarians disagree with social conservatives are less important than the (small-government economic) issues where libertarians and conservatives are on the same page.
Well, if the differences are so darned small and insignificant, and the resultant splitting of the vote is so terribly important, why don't conservatives just concede those points and end the infighting?
LOL -- the entire OP is an exercise in foot-stamping so intense that I'm surprised it hasn't set off the New Madrid faultline.
Hmmm... who knows more about how to "last long" here -- the chap with the 2008-09-23 signup date or the one with the 1999-03-06 signup date?
As a relative newcomer myself, I have an obvious interest in knowing where to get useful advice on the subject.
How, exactly, are they different?
BING!!
And since the official Libertarian Platform espouses “gay” everything, abortion,no holds barred porn, dope and open borders, it is clear they are just ultra far out kook fringe of the Left.
All they do is make it so Rs lose close elections.
Screw them.
Pure, unadultered homo-agenda pushing talking points. You win the booby prize!
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Just in case anyone's in the mood for a libertarian idiot-fest. Cicero's comment is excellent and I don't feel well enough to do better. Bottom line is this - the official Libertarian Party platform want "gay" anything they want including marriage and in the military, no holds barred porn, dope, open borders, and abortion. So what is that supposedly makes them conservative in some way? Oh, lower taxes and hopefully they want to get rid of the Dept of Education and other unconstitutional departments and agencies. But since they will never garner enough votes to do anything except get Dems won in close elections, they are the enemeis of real Constitutional conservatism. And they prove it with their infantile sloganeering and zero grasp of human nature or what the writings of the founders are really saying.
You are right.
It’s also advocacy for homosexuals in the military and getting married, any kind of porn anywhere, abortion, and open borders as well.
Those are part of the Real Official Libertarian Party Platform. On a FR thread not long ago.
Well, if the differences are so darned small and insignificant, and the resultant splitting of the vote is so terribly important, why don't conservatives just concede those points and end the infighting?
Hey troll, first of all conservatives have NEVER SAID that social issues are "less important" than other issues.
Secondly, like all libertarians, you have demonstrated that you are basically a leftist-anarchist by saying that you think conservatives should "concede" issues like abortion, homosexuality, etc.
Try calling a normal black man a homosexual and see what happens; then you’ll know the difference.
Normal people with normal morals are disgusted that homosexuals have been pushing their agenda on everyone else for over two decades and are sick of it.
Hey troll, I see that you joined two days ago to push militant homosexualism.
I've got news for you, conservatives oppose the homosexual agenda because we are CONSERVATIVES. By your idiotic logic we also protest abortion because of some "repressed" urge to kill.
Be gone troll!
In your dreams.
What we recognize is that most libertarians are liberals and anarchists in disguise.
Some government is a necessity for an orderly society.
Most libertarians have revealed themselves to be spoiled, selfish, immature brats. They want total freedom to do as they please, to he!! with the other guy; no restrictions whatsoever and no moral restraint.
Society will collapse under their delusion of what utopia should be, total unrestrained license.
It's not possible. Little as libertarians like to admit it, they DO have an obligation to society in general and to their neighbor to live in a courteous well mannered relationship with them. That is sorely lacking among the vast majority of libertarians, I've had the displeasure of dealing with. They think of no on but themselves and how nobody has the right to tell them what to do, all the while telling others what they have to put up with whether they like it or not.
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You're making the error of not realizing that most libertarians ARE anarchists. That is exactly what they advocate for, denying it all the while.
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