Willie Green Happy Choo-Choo thread.
Promoting 19th Century technology for the 21st Century.
Posted on 10/14/2010 1:04:05 PM PDT by Willie Green
(IRN)-An environmental group is touting the fuel saving benefits of the train.
In particular, the savings are measured based on the use of the Metra commuter rail system in the Chicago area: 34.8 million of gasoline a year, assuming all the train riders would have made all the same trips by car, with 1.3 people in the car each time, according to the group Environment Illinois.
Metra served 77 million passengers in 2008, with ridership increasing an average of 1 percent per year since 2000. Its busiest line, the BNSF line between Aurora and Chicago, carries an average of 63,200 passengers each weekday.
Environment Illinois is calling for an adjustment of the federal transportation funding formula to support rail as much as roads. Field associate Sophie Huckabay says the current formula rewards states that adopt transportation policies that promote fuel consumption, a perverse incentive, she says.
The train related fuel savings would accrue, Huckabay says, on expanded Metra service further into the hinterlands, to places such as Johnsburg, Rockford, DeKalb and Kankakee, and high-speed rail Downstate.
B/S.
Do you have a source for that?
Build trains BUILD BUILD BUILD! Lay track ALL DAY LONG.
Build stations and cargo depots! Do it!
Not a single dime of taxpayer funds should be used. All of it should be private sector funds AND if they fail then they fail! NO BAILOUTS!
All of the above!
There's a fair amount of management involved per mile of road: but it pales into significance with the huge amount of safety-related maintainance per mile of rail track.
You made my day.
Look, pal. FR is a conservative site. Statism, socialism, etc, are not conservative traits. If you’re going to argue everything from the leftist point of view, ie, leftist propaganda and assorted bullshit/environmental clap-trap, you need to move on over to DU where your posts will be appreciated. We don’t want any fricken government trains! Got it?!!
Some advance on the Fischer-Tropsch (sp?) process? That’s good news. Human ingenuity once again pushing back the oil horizon.
But of course the Greens will hate it. Simply because they are the enemy of Man.
All of the above
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2308350/posts Peak Oil’ Is a Waste of Energy
...along comes Fatih Birol, the top economist at the International Energy Agency, to insist that we'll reach the peak moment in 10 years, a decade sooner than most previous predictions (although a few ardent pessimists believe the moment of no return has already come and gone). Like many Malthusian beliefs, peak oil theory has been promoted by a motivated group of scientists and laymen who base their conclusions on poor analyses of data and misinterpretations of technical material.
Peak oil can trace its intellectual ancestry to Reverend Thomas Malthus, a British cleric who believed that population growth would inevitably lead to global poverty. In a similarly pessimistic vein, the respected U.S. Geological Survey boldly predicted in 1919 world oil production would peak by 1928. In fact, U.S. production did not peak until 1970, and global oil production is still rising 40 years later.”
25 posted on Monday, August 31, 2009 11:59:38 AM by AFPhys http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2324342/posts
Choo choo! All aboard the Collectivist Express!
Willie Green Happy Choo-Choo thread.
Promoting 19th Century technology for the 21st Century.
I agree, but now I’m angrier. We live in a centrally planned economy, and we are held hostage secondarily by Al Qaida, but primarily by noisy libtards.
UK trains make their profit on freight, moving mostly at night. And (ahem) subsidy.
I didn’t realise about the speed/maintenance variation, but in retrospect I guess it’s obvious. Thanks for posting that.
The other/related problem with passenger services is that if you crash at 70 mph, everyone dies, the line closes for weeks, and people go to jail.
But if coal crashes at 30 mph, you just pick it up.
Maybe Willie will post a similar thread tomorrow, and then I can use it. Ah, but what are the odds of him doing that?
(Willie, we love you. We all benefit from having someone to argue with, so don't ever change!)
So do rickshaws, hang gliders and Mary Poppins' umbrella, but none of them tend to stop at my house, day care, schools and work. (Ignoring the arguments on the thread that even the oringial premise is faulty)
"Businesses do not pass their costs on to consumers of their products"
Willie Green, countless occasions since May of 1998
Ten Reasons Why Conservatives should support transit
By Paul Weyrich and William S. Lind
Over 35 million Americans rely on some form of public tansportation to commute to work every weekday.
If that makes them "marxist" in your worldview, then I suggest that you refrain from hanging out with the whacknut libertarians. They obviously have been a bad influence on you.
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