What do you mean when you say “tables”?
The evidence for the absence is eyewitness testimony, which ladysforest had posted on her blog at http://www.myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com I’d have to look for the specific link, but TsunamiGeno, who is a longtime very good friend of LF’s, looked for it and double-checked it several times to be sure he wasn’t missing anything and said it was not there.
I’ve had the pleasure of working with LF and have found her research to be meticulous and she does not trust just anybody. I can’t remember what all she’s said publicly and better not say more than what she’s said publicly, but from what she told me about TsunamiGeno’s reactions, I believe the story implicitly.
There are other supporting reasons I have for believing it as well, but it’s not time to go into that yet.
As a DBA, what can you tell me about the format of records printouts? Can they print according to any parameter they so desire? For instance, the HDOH told me that they could print out the 1961 birth index. And then after I had my money in to their office the morning of the day that Okubo told the AP that they can give somebody the 1961 birth index for $98.75... they responded by saying that the records are only compiled in 5-year increments and so they CAN’T print out just one year.
My understanding of databases is that you can extract from it whatever you dang well please, sorted however you want it. Is that not the case?
He may be alluding to that Hawaii did not access their database tables properly using a SQL, a common language, or some other language to query their relational database(s).
Think of a table as a drawer in a filecabinet or maybe a green hanging file folder in that drawer, where those green hanging file folders each contain several manilla file folders with lots of papers in each of those. A table stores data about like items. When designing the database, a DBA can organize the tables however he wants just like you can organize your file cabinet any way you want. Reorganizing later is much work.
My understanding of databases is that you can extract from it whatever you dang well please, sorted however you want it. Is that not the case?
Yes, that's mostly true. In the cases that it's not, the reasons why not would be low-level, technical details that matter only to we geeks.
As a DBA, what can you tell me about the format of records printouts? Can they print according to any parameter they so desire?
Think of it this way. If you can extract it with a query, you can print it.
However, as I understand the UIPA and OIP opinion letters, Hawaii doesn't have to manufacture (or assemble) the information for you. So while they may have the ability to easily query the database, they don't have to do so.
They've printed index data in five year increments to keep on-hand for public access in books/binders. I haven't seen those so I don't know what the data looks like. My guess is that they ran a query for all births between a five year date range and sorted the results (output) by year, then by last name. Then they assembled the data into book/binder format.
If I understand your summary, they're telling you that they refuse to run a separate query for you to extract only the 1961 birth index data because they consider that to be manufactering and assembling data, which they're not required to do. Do they have the ability to do so easily? Absolutely.
Think of a table as a drawer in a filecabinet or maybe a green hanging file folder in that drawer, where those green hanging file folders each contain several manilla file folders with lots of papers in each of those. A table stores data about like items. When designing the database, a DBA can organize the tables however he wants just like you can organize your file cabinet any way you want. Reorganizing later is much work.
My understanding of databases is that you can extract from it whatever you dang well please, sorted however you want it. Is that not the case?
Yes, that's mostly true. In the cases that it's not, the reasons why not would be low-level, technical details that matter only to we geeks.
As a DBA, what can you tell me about the format of records printouts? Can they print according to any parameter they so desire?
Think of it this way. If you can extract it with a query, you can print it.
However, as I understand the UIPA and OIP opinion letters, Hawaii doesn't have to manufacture (or assemble) the information for you. So while they may have the ability to easily query the database, they don't have to do so.
They've printed index data in five year increments to keep on-hand for public access in books/binders. I haven't seen those so I don't know what the data looks like. My guess is that they ran a query for all births between a five year date range and sorted the results (output) by year, then by last name. Then they assembled the data into book/binder format.
If I understand your summary, they're telling you that they refuse to run a separate query for you to extract only the 1961 birth index data because they consider that to be manufactering and assembling data, which they're not required to do. Do they have the ability to do so easily? Absolutely.