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To: Mr Rogers; edge919; bushpilot1; Red Steel
Expatriation Act of July 27, 1868

There was NO SUCH THING AS DUAL CITIZENSHIP RECOGNIZED BY THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES. PER THE TREATY OF 1870 BETWEEN THE US & GREAT BRITAIN that was CONCLUDED in May 1870; EXCHANGED in August 1870 & PROCLAIMED the law of the land in September 1870, it was recognized by BOTH countries as the SUPREME LAW governing nationality of subjects & citizens.( http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=016/llsl016.db&recNum=810 )

British Nationality Act, 1948 Part II

Citizenship of the United Kingdom and Colonies. Citizenship by birth or descent.

Citizenship by descent.

5.—(1) Subject to the provisions of this section, a person born after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent if his father is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies at the time of the birth:

Provided that if the father of such a person is a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by descent only, that person shall not be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by virtue of this section unless—

(a) that person is born or his father was born in a protectorate, protected state, mandated territory or trust territory or any place in a foreign country where by treaty, capitulation, grant, usage, sufferance, or other lawful means, His Majesty then has or had jurisdiction over British subjects; or

(b) that person's birth having occurred in a place in a foreign country other than a place such as is mentioned in the last foregoing paragraph, the birth is registered at a United Kingdom consulate within one year of its occurrence, or, with the permission of the Secretary of State

The treaty between the US & Great Britain, STILL IN FORCE, clearly stated that the only US citizenship recognized by GB was that of a British Subject who freely & openly renounced his allegiance to GB & took an oath of allegiance to the US. There was NO conferring citizenship, it had to be done by a personal act of the individual, not that of the state or nation. Therefore, according to the treaty, since BO, Sr was NOT a naturalized US citizen, his children were not US citizens either for all legal & intent purposes. Treaties TRUMP US law or did you forget that little fact.

2,229 posted on 10/25/2010 12:31:44 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

PER THE TREATY OF 1870 BETWEEN THE US & GREAT BRITAIN that was CONCLUDED in May 1870; EXCHANGED in August 1870 & PROCLAIMED the law of the land in September 1870, it was recognized by BOTH countries as the SUPREME LAW governing nationality of subjects & citizens.

http://rs6.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=016/llsl016.db&recNum=810


2,231 posted on 10/25/2010 12:32:48 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin
There was NO SUCH THING AS DUAL CITIZENSHIP RECOGNIZED BY THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES.

Speaking of that. In Calvin's Case, it mentions: "by the law of nature; It followeth, that Calvin the Plaintiff being born under one ligeance to one King, i.e. of Scotland. cannot be an alien born" and "in case of an alien born, you must of necessity have two several ligeances to two several persons." IOW, IIUC, this is saying that if you have dual allegiance at birth, you would be considered 'alien born.' If you were born under ONE allegiance to ONE country, then you are 'natural born.' Clearly, under English common law, Obama was born (and he admits through his FTS website) with two allegiances, simply by the virtue of having parents of different nationalities.

2,250 posted on 10/25/2010 1:09:19 PM PDT by edge919
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To: patlin; edge919; bushpilot1; Red Steel

More birther stupidity, I see.

You ARE aware that NO TREATY overrides the US Constitution? And that is why WKA looked to the CONSTITUTION, since it overrode US treaties with China?

And that ANYONE born in the US is a US citizen, unless (possibly, although the courts have never required this) their parents are here illegally?

Try reading the 14th Amendment, or the comments about what it means to be a NBC as decided by the Supreme Court.

And you DO realize that the British Nationality Act of 1948 is not binding on the USA?


2,271 posted on 10/25/2010 1:29:36 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When an ass brays, don't reply)
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