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To: butterdezillion

Does that bother you at all - that a large number of Americans don’t necessarily believe what government bureaucrats might say in official communications, because there is no method to keep them accountable if and when they lie?


No, that doesn’t bother me in the least because it has always been the case that large numbers of Americans don’t necessarily believe what government bureaucrats might say. That has been the case across the entire history of the American republic, why should it be any different in 2010 from what it was like in 1799 when scandals like the “XYZ affair” were going down?

The way to resolve such differences of opinion and fact is in a CRIMINAL court of law.
Grand jury investigations are convened and a prosecuting attorney issues subpoenas to government bureaucrats and has them subjected to cross-examination with testimony given under oath with the threat of perjury hanging over their heads.

You say that there is no method of holding government officials accountable when they lie? My God woman, haven’t you ever heard of Watergate, Iran-Contra, Whitewater, CIA leaks-Valerie Plame affair or the indictment of Rod Blagojevich? Just to name a few.
Obama’s buddy Blagojevich was such a political liabliity that his own party, the Illinois Democrats, got rid of him in about three weeks time.

Take a gander at the major American political scandals in which government bureaucrats WERE held accountable including indictments, convictions, pardons, commutation of sentences, jail time and removal from office.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_scandals_of_the_United_States


1,944 posted on 10/24/2010 4:56:59 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

When you say that Blagojevich was a liability that explains all the examples you gave. It was not justice that held those people accountable. It was politics. Nixon resigned. Plame was outed by her own husband and by Richard Armitage, who was never held legally accountable; instead, Scooter Libby landed in jail for being just as “confused” as the media entities who went scot free. Whitewater was a very bad joke. Blago was a joke; one well-placed person with an agenda was able to screw that totally up, and the investigation was hindered by a desire to protect Obama.

The stuff you’re giving as examples all prove the opposite thing: that politics is the only thing ruling in this country right now, not justice.

Pilate said to Jesus, “What is truth?” He had seen the politics and had been told that if he had one more dust-up with the Jews he would be removed from the “Friends of Caesar” Club - removal by mandatory suicide. He knew he had to condemn an innocent Man to death or die himself - because politics, not truth, is the way of the world.

All the examples you cited make that very case. The innocent sit in jail and the guilty go free - all depending on who your friends are and how useful you are to them at the time.

But I say if we don’t have truthfulness in our dealings with each other we have nothing. What is truth? Critical.


1,954 posted on 10/24/2010 5:14:33 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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