No Jamese777 the question is why did HDOH go to such lengths to try and fool people that a long form was no longer available.
Get a clue, Obama is being helped in hiding something. This all came about after the demand for his long form. We told you they were available and you wouldn't even send them an email and ask, were you afraid of their answer or did you really believe their deception? Do you feel even more stupid now that you got punked by HDOH?
No Jamese777 the question is why did HDOH go to such lengths to try and fool people that a long form was no longer available.
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No Jamese777 the question is why did HDOH go to such lengths to try and fool people that a long form was no longer available.
Get a clue, Obama is being helped in hiding something. This all came about after the demand for his long form. We told you they were available and you wouldn’t even send them an email and ask, were you afraid of their answer or did you really believe their deception? Do you feel even more stupid now that you got punked by HDOH?
And no, I don’t believe that Danae got a long form from them because I haven’t seen a raised Seal or a Registar’s signature, and I will put a lot more trust into an official response I intend to get in writing from the Registrar of Vital Records.
If you don’t trust that official response when it comes, oh well. That’s why there will always be two sides to this issue.
However it still remains that fact the the only Article II, Section I constitutionally required information that is on a birth record is date of birth and place of birth.
Getting back to the original topic of this thread, Lieutenant Colonel Lakin’s new civilian attorney said today that Judge Lind’s rulings have been consistent with the law and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. This was reported in an article posted on Worldnetdaily today.
Correct. They even changed the Department of Homelands brochure to try to hide it ( the only part in the brochure they did change )
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From the new Department of Homelands brochure:
The state Department of Health, the state Archives, and the state Bureau of Conveyances are just a few places where you can look for and obtain primary and secondary documents. Certified copies of records can be obtained for a fee.
Now, how do they define primary documents ?
Birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth and Certifications of Live Birth) and Certificates of Hawaiian Birth are the primary documents used to determine native Hawaiian qualification.
So, you can see. You can still request a certified copy of the Certificate of Live Birth. In the new brochure, they just omitted the detailed process ( as described in the old one ) of how to do it.
Okubo also made the statement:
At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting
That just proves that all the information in the original Certificate of Live Birth is still available. How do I know this ? It is the law in Hawaii. From the Hawaii Revised Statutes:
92-31 Disposition of original record. A photograph, microphotograph, reproduction on film, or electronic form of a government record shall be placed in conveniently accessible files and provisions made for preserving, examining, and using the same. Thereafter, a public officer, after having first received the written approval of the comptroller as provided in section 94-3, may cause such record, paper, or document to be destroyed. The comptroller may require, as a prerequisite to the granting of such approval, that a reproduction or print of such photograph, microphotograph, or reproduction on film, or electronic form of the record be delivered into the custody of the public archives for safekeeping. The comptroller may also require the delivery into the custody of another governmental department or agency or a research library of any such record, paper, or document proposed to be destroyed under the provisions of this section.
So, either the original microfiche copy is still available or a complete reproduction of it in electronic form is available. To put something in electronic form and not copy all the data on the original document would be against the law. Where these files have to be accessible and provisions have to be made for examining them, it would be misleading for the Department of Health to say that the information on the original Certificate of Live Birth is no longer available. Under Hawaii Revised Stautes 338-18, those with a direct and tangible interest in the record are permitted inspection of public health statistics records. That would include either the microfiche or electronic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth.