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New Lame Duck Threat to Bailout Union Pensions
Human Events ^ | 08 October 2010 | Connie Hair

Posted on 10/10/2010 7:49:36 PM PDT by Lorianne

Democrats in the Senate on Thursday held a recess hearing covering a taxpayer bailout of union pensions and a plan to seize private 401(k) plans to more "fairly" distribute taxpayer-funded pensions to everyone.

Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa), Chairman of the Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee heard from hand-picked witnesses advocating the infamous "Guaranteed Retirement Account" (GRA) authored by Theresa Guilarducci.

(You can find the blistering interview with Guilarducci by radio talk show host Mark Levin in 2007 at the link).

In a nutshell, under the GRA system government would seize private 401(k) accounts, setting up an additional 5% mandatory payroll tax to dole out a "fair" pension to everyone using that confiscated money coupled with the mandated contributions.

This would, of course, be a sister government ponzi scheme working in tandem with Social Security, the primary purpose being to give big government politicians additional taxpayer funds to raid to pay for their out-of-control spending.

(Excerpt) Read more at humanevents.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: 401k; bailout; guilarducci; lameduck; pensions; senate; theresa; unions
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To: Lorianne

OMG-—— that poor looking woman they had testify about all her heart string pulling problems about nothing to leave to her children, just wanting a respectible old age life, not being a burden on her children etc. was a planted UNION SEIU member. Good Grief these people are shameless.


21 posted on 10/10/2010 8:33:09 PM PDT by therut
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To: Lorianne

OMG-—— that poor looking woman they had testify about all her heart string pulling problems about nothing to leave to her children, just wanting a respectible old age life, not being a burden on her children etc. was a planted UNION SEIU member. Good Grief these people are shameless.


22 posted on 10/10/2010 8:33:17 PM PDT by therut
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To: PackerBoy

Your joking. The Dums have had their sights on the Billions + in the 401k System. Jesse Jackson has been the man behind the curtain on this one.

I think people better wake up, Cutting social Security, seizing 401ks, IRAs,. If the middle class has money ANYWHERE these fascist will try to seize it. Hearding the cattle to the slaughterhouse.


23 posted on 10/10/2010 8:33:30 PM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: lewislynn

June 18, 1998—You can find this out by clicking on your freeper name.


24 posted on 10/10/2010 8:36:01 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Lorianne

later


25 posted on 10/10/2010 8:36:36 PM PDT by quintr
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To: PackerBoy

I would not put another penny in the 401(k), and bury my real retirement in the back-yard. Time to Galt this rag - or take up arms.


26 posted on 10/10/2010 8:40:29 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: AD from SpringBay
Time to Galt this rag - or take up arms

Do both. Really!

27 posted on 10/10/2010 8:42:06 PM PDT by outofstyle (Anti-socialist)
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To: Lorianne

I sure hope they start with Calpers!!!


28 posted on 10/10/2010 8:46:03 PM PDT by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Lorianne

go ahead. i think voters will remember 2012.


29 posted on 10/10/2010 8:49:55 PM PDT by Bhoy
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To: PackerBoy
"People would take up arms."

Against armed federal marshals and FBI agents? That would be a very short firefight.

30 posted on 10/10/2010 8:50:32 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Lorianne

NOW it IS time to lock and load. If the fools on the Hill do this... then they best have some place very secure in which to hide their sorry traitorous hides. Heads WILL roll, and I do NOT mean that in a metaphorical way.


31 posted on 10/10/2010 8:55:58 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: freespirited

She is saying the demonrats may attach it to any tax cut extension bill, and Republicans would vote for it. Frightening! Their attitude is how dare people not want to be a burden to their children!


32 posted on 10/10/2010 8:56:11 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lorianne
Democrats in the Senate on Thursday held a recess hearing covering a taxpayer bailout of union pensions and a plan to seize private 401(k) plans to more "fairly" distribute taxpayer-funded pensions to everyone.

There isn't enough courage in Washington to even dream of doing this. It would mean the end of the Democratic Party.
33 posted on 10/10/2010 8:58:38 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: gidget7

Would this seizure of assets include 403(b) plans, I wonder?


34 posted on 10/10/2010 8:59:55 PM PDT by reeb88 (How much fun are 72 virgins anyway? How much crying can one martyr take?)
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To: basil
You can find this out by clicking on your freeper name.
I know but I didn't feel like it was important enough at the time to bother.
35 posted on 10/10/2010 9:02:20 PM PDT by lewislynn ( It's not going to be who wins a seat, rather it will be who loses a seat that will save America)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

The fact that they are talking about this now makes me think they will do it when the economy drastically fails. It has been done in other countries and with what we have in charge now, why are we any different? I do think it may cause a large demonstration which will, of course, not be reported by the media.


36 posted on 10/10/2010 9:03:40 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Soothesayer9

WE outnumber THEM 1,000,000 : 1

Moreover WE would be fighting to defend what is OURS... That money represents time from our lives, and therefore its theft represents a threat to our lives and that of our spouses. I would not hesitate to take up arms over this... And the FBI etc, would be no match for a people who have finally been pushed too far. The British also thought they were invincible... They got their clocks cleaned by a bunch of farmers. Remember that.


37 posted on 10/10/2010 9:03:58 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !When a majority of the American)
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To: reeb88

I don’t know reeb. The article doesn’t mention TDAs either


38 posted on 10/10/2010 9:07:16 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Lorianne

They’re not going to “take” anyone’s 401k. They will simply “rename” it something else and give you one choice of holding: “Retirement” bonds.

That said, if they tried to hide something like this in another bill, as soon as there’s wind of it, people will rush to empty out their 401k’s (and accept the penalties) before letting the gov’t control it.

Not to mention that they would put many mutual funds out of business and cause a market collapse with all of that money being pulled out of capital markets.

In the end, they won’t do anything. They know very well that is one genie they won’t be able to put back in the bottle. Smart money is on this being another dog and pony show being used to placate some group or other.


39 posted on 10/10/2010 9:07:55 PM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna!)
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To: PackerBoy

This will never happen. People would take up arms.

I know I would!


40 posted on 10/10/2010 9:09:05 PM PDT by Laserman
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