Posted on 10/07/2010 8:49:15 PM PDT by Inyokern
In 2010, the citizens of Illinois should send to the Capitol a senator who will bring expertise and independence. The candidate who fits that bill is Mark Kirk.
Today the Tribune endorses Kirk, a Republican, for the U.S. Senate seat that Roland Burris soon vacates. To understand our verdict, watch Giannoulias and Kirk's appearance before us this week. You'll find the video at chicagotribune.com/senate. Judge each man's depth and preparedness for the job. Judge knowledge and scope. Judge accomplishment. Judge which candidate has a proven record of thoughtful independence — of bucking his party when the good of this nation is at stake. You won't have difficulty making these judgments.
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All that after the Trillion Dollar economic impact caused by the 9/11 attacks.
It was the biggest increase in revenue in the shortest amount of time in the history of the country from what I understand.
If you ever wondered how spending under Bush increased by $800 Billion Dollars a year, but Deficits were decreasing from a high of $435 Billion to less than $250 Billion, now you know the reason.
In 2006 the Voters handed over the reins of Government to Pelosi and Reid thanks to a biased Media sabotaging the War effort, Mark Foley and of course Macaca. The rest is history.
Your first paragraph reflects America as it should be. Whatever the rates, those who CAN pay do the paying. They also benefit disproportionately so there is no injustice.
I don't have socialist schemes. For example, I have never owned and will never own a "tax free" municipal bond by which folks like you benefit by encouraging excess governmental spending just to increase your "tax-free" income. What was that about socialist schemes again???
I certainly don't love Giannoulias but his election is infinitely superior to continuing the miserable existence of baby-killing, gun grabbing, lavender "marriage" supporting, troop back-stabbing (in time of war no less), cap 'n' tax lusting, brie and chablis, polo pony dimwiticus, yacht basin wallowing, phony "Republican" Nancyboy Kirk. AND, you see, Kirk harms the Republican Party and its brand name in Illinois and uses his corruption to rake in the federal funds for those "Republican" DIABLO Combiners who are political enemies of conservative Republicans and all other real Americans.
You continue to question my conservatism but I have displayed much of my resume as you understandably refuse to post yours (since it is hard to post your non-existent credentials or you would do so). Also, I am still waiting for some proof of your Illinois residency since you seem so eager to destroy the possibility of Illinois EVER having a genuine GOP just to convenience your greed to expand your holdings at our expense as a party since, Nancyboy is expected to be a faithful lapdog for his rich and utterly unprincipled supporters.
When you decide to be relevant to the discussion, be sure and let me know. In the meantime, I don't care one whit more for your opinion than I do for George McGovern's, Mike Castle's, Princess Lisa Moocowski's, Nancyboy's or for anyone else's opinion who has no greater motivation (or resume) than "fatten my holdings no matter what the cost."
I will repeat: Any one child sliced, diced and hamburgerized by the amorality and immorality of the Nancyboy Kirk types and their rank refusal to defend the very lives of innocent human infants is infinitely more valuable than your da*ned stock portfolio.
As to Ronaldus Maximus, I was one of his state chairmen when he challenged feckless Ford. You were not or we would have heard by now. And, other than keyboarding with whines about how you need tax relief by da*n and need it NOW occasionally at FR, doing and understanding nothing political has been your habit of a lifetime or, again, we would have heard by now.
Your tax cuts under Reagan were produced by social conservatives whether they personally benefited or not. The voters in 1980 were fed up with many hundreds of days of America held hostage by the Ayatollah, the Panama Canal giveaway, abortion on demand, the snobocracy of the know-it-all Demonrats at the same time they had Uncle Cornpone of Peanutland in the White House, raging gasoline prices, shortages of everything, President Hemmorhoid in his cardigan sweater on our TVs suggesting we should freeze at home in the dark to make his job easier. race quotas, gender quotas, a pack of greedy feeding Demonrats rearranging America's fiscal furniture to help themselves and finally, a commander in chief who claimed to have been physically assaulted by a swimming attack rabbit. Did I mention Billy Beer bottled after the horse died? You think you and yours are more important than social conservatism, think again! Your kind are a miniscule and quite replaceable sliver of the conservative movement at best. Of course, bereft of any meaningful resume, you are less than that.
Don't lecture me on supply side economics. I read and advocated the economics of Laffer and Wanniski before you heard of either or of supply side economics.
In no campaign in Reagan's history did that great man tell the public: There is one overriding reason to elect me, really the only reason, and that is that I will cut the personal taxes of arrogantsob and tens of millions of Americans, motivated as never before by their lust to relieve arrogantsob's taxes, trooped to the polls and elected Reagan just to cut arrogantsob's taxes and the clouds parted and the sun shone as arrogantsob's taxes were cut and everyone lived happily ever after.
People like you are the albatross that prevents the GOP from being dominated by the entire and compellingly lovely tapestry of conservatism and the nation from being dominated by the such a conservative GOP. You should give serious consideration to becoming a Demonrat. They won't require any moral concern for others and they are very used to catering slavishly to special interests (why not yours???), and they will see your money as their god. Dialectical or otherwise, they are certainly materialists. You will be so much more comfortable there.
I also have not heard from you why you think class warfare should be a one-way street other than the fact that there are so many fewer of you. I would be happy not to have class warfare but, if the affluent wage it against most folks, why should most folks be conscientious objectors. The "class warfare" card is the "race card" of the spoiled and no more meaningful or respectable or logical as an argument.
Either you are a schizophrenic or a liar. No one who has read and understood Supply Side Economics would buy the class warfare BS you defend.
BTW I don’t need tax relief but the economy does. My financial situation is not such that taxes are a big problem but for many others they are.
People in lower income brackets have no hope of climbing out of them unless the economy is growing and high taxes prevents that growth. One claiming such a distinguished pedigree as you should know this stuff inside and out. Not sound like you never encountered this reality before.
As poor as Kirk is as a candidate The Greek is many times worse.
I made the point of increased REVENUE from a RATE cut to the fraudulent “conservative” who is raving at me. Made no difference.
Same thing happened with the Harding cuts, the Kennedy cuts and the Reagan cuts. Big increases in revenue from the rich paying more at lower rates.
Importantly, not only do the "rich" pay more at lower rates, they pay a higher proportion of the total tax take.
Certainly, this was the case with the Bush tax cuts.
Liberals who crave to punish the rich and boost tax revenues simply must understand the empirical evidence that says the best way to do both is to lower the tax rates.
But they wouldn't be caught dead doing that -- becuse their real objective isn't punishing the rich or increasing tax revenues. It's control.
Let's just say he didn't appreciate my response, but sometimes you just get sick of people who don't form opinions based on factual information. They hear something and do not take the time to verify what they clearly want to believe.
I'm sure that human nature being what it is, we all do that to an extent. That being said, I think Conservatives are always willing to discuss and research something before they jump in with both feet.
Like an old Navy Vet who used to work for me always said, “Spit in one hand and wish in the other and see which one fills up first”. Kind of sounds like Hope and Change to me.
Yep. “We will kill that horse then we own it.”
Nothing like those ole Navy vets. I have one in the family - my 31 yr old son. LoL.
Nothing beats a good debate with a liberal but after a couple of clear refutations its “I don’t want to talk about this anymore.”
I think she is afraid things will escalate. Nothing worse than a frustrated Liberal who doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground.
We have a Marine and an former Air Force kid in the family. The Marine was in Afghanistan last year and the Air Force kid, he hates when we call him that, was in charge of an Avionics Team that worked on C-130 Spectre Gun Ships that flew over Iraq.
Hard to believe those two little brats went on to do things many kids in this country would not do. LOL
I have read and understood Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels and I don't share their beliefs. I have read supply side economics and have no doubt that lower marginal rates produce a higher tax yield from the Rolls Royce set and yet, mere tax rates have little importance compared to innocent babies, marriage as an institution, gun rights, military strength and use of same, and the issues that are actually important and not merely money, money, money.
There are people who have read the Bible and reject the Word of God. Some may be too busy experiencing angst over their portfolios to be socially conservative. Others are obsessed with the yacht races or the next thrilling polo match or fox hunting opportunity. Many believe that the social issues are far more important than money, money, money. Hey, this is America and it is still a free country for the Country Class 50+ million dead babies after Roe vs. Wade, however inconvenient that may be to the Ruling Class crowd, as referenced and defined by Codevilla.
Let's suppose that cutting your taxes is the be-all and end-all of conservative policy, a regular Nirvana, if it had been achieved. Do you think conservatives would be picking up as many Congressional, Senatorial and Gubernatorial seats as we will be today? Satisfy the economic "royalists" as FDR used to call them, and their handful of votes will gleefully turn toward Obamao in 2012.
Nancyboy will corrupt whatever he touches if he is elected, starting with the GOP itself. Giannouloias will go to jail if he is elected and his successor will be named by Brady. Hmmmmm, a Brady appointee or Nancyboy???? I'm going with Brady's appointee. No brainer!
For a person who claims not to need tax relief, you sure seem obsessed by tax rates for the ultra comfortable. Tax rates are a low priority item compared to those more important issues.
Nancyboy Kirk is a total disaster and far more so than is mobster canoodling Giannoulias. Gangsters are stand up guys compared to social revolutionaries. Also, having a rape/murdering savage move into your acquaintance's house (the Demonrat Party) may not be desirable but it is a lot more desirable than having the rape/murdering savage move into one's own house and thereby threaten one's wife and kids. As to Nancyboy, thanks but no thanks.
You also apparently do not live in Illinois and so who represents Illinois in the Senate is more our Illinoisan business than yours.
There you go again with the "class warfare" card to which you are as addicted as are Demonrats to the race card. Rich folks want to keep the tax cuts that apply only to them even if that costs the rest of the population from extensions of tax cuts for more modest folks and some of the pampered set would so betray their country as to vote for Nancyboy and his ilk, undercutting the GOP, conservatism and America.
Apparently, you see "class warfare" as OK so long as it is practiced only by the well off against the rest of us but no defense by the rest of us is allowed. So you apparently believe in one-sided class slaughter as preferable to two-sided "class warfare" in which everyone gets to fight.
That Kirk has raised more $ than Giannoulias means that the Demonrats want Nancyboy in the Senate. The Chicago Machine can outhustle for bucks any Republican in Illinois.
None of the issues which YOU believe are important will get ANY aid from The Greek NOT ONE. Yet, he will NOT vote for tax cuts which Kirk will.
That says it all.
The rest of your ludicrous post is just wasted electrons not worthy of response. But it is worthy of note that you allow the Class Warfare line of the RATS to divide you from the more sensible Conservatives.
God luv ‘em.
The Greek’s rating would be 100% on all the things you hate and O% on the things you love. And YOU KNOW IT.
His “credentials” are outweighed by his Class Warfare rhetoric directly contradicting the thoughts of his alleged hero, Ronnie.
The argument to not support the Party’s candidate is nonsense and comes from the real RINOs. We NEVER need another Democrat Machine Man from Chicago in state, local or national politics. Elect Kirk and start organizing to oust him and you would get my vote in a primary. But once the general rolls around real Republicans, like REAGAN, support the candidate.
LoL why in the world will anyone supporting the GOP’s candidate apologize to you or anyone else here? Particularly when every Republican vote is likely to be critical. You are deluding yourself.
Kirk will not give most of us voting for him all we want there is no argument about that but his election is critical for control of the Senate. It is really simple.
Then after election go right ahead and organize to remove him.
Oh, and Carol was NOT elected by “talkradio” people and she was not “unknown” at all by anyone conscious. And you are admitting that YOU voted for Braun? WOW.
Yes, I and many others voted for Carole Mosley-Braun. It was a gamble that it would result in Peter Fitzgerald, the best thing to happen to IL politics in my lifetime.
The gamble paid off. Sometimes such gambles do not pay off.
do you dispute the value of Peter Fitz in naming Patrick Fitz to clean up corruption in BOTH parties?
And my litmus test is corruption, not other issues. I’ve voted for. and worked for, plenty of moderates in the past when I thought it would benefit anti-corruption.
Some of that working for moderates was a big mistake and
I APOLOGIZE ... I APOLOGIZE
I worked hard for Topinka in ‘98 thinking that when Ryan would be thrown out of office she would become GOP State Chair and LEARN from the Ryan experience and join the conservatives in cleaning out corruption.
I WAS WRONG. When she became GOP State Chair she went out of her way to protect the corruption within the party. Numerous specific anecdotes can be given to demonstrate that. George Ryan destroyed the party. She had the opportunity to re-build it. But she went out of her way to prevent the re-building of the party.
So you would have contradicted Buckley and voted for Weicker against Lieberman.
No, I don’t know that Alexi would have been more liberal than Mark. Kirk is more liberal than many Democrats.
I don’t live in Conn so had no vote in that race. We are speaking of Illinois which couldn’t even elect a conservative governor even after all the slime connected to the RATS was exposed.
Thanks to the dumbasses voting for Cohen we are still under the thumb of the most corrupt political machine in the country which is apparently OK with you.
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