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To: Kaslin
I've heard of this case but don't know much about it.While it's true that graduating from any of our military academies is a *strong* indication of good character it's not an absolute guarantee that you'll never develop a serious psychiatric problem or drug or alcohol problem.

I've just found a story from the LV Sun about the case and after having glanced at it I have several thoughts but I'll save all but two for now.

The ones I *won't* save are 1)Scott was carrying *two* handguns at the time,one of which he wasn't licensed to have.The story says that that's a felony in NV.But more importantly (to me) is...what's the deal with *two* weapons?? Yah,I can see having one...I have no problem with *one*.But *two*,even if legal,suggests to me that he might have had a screw loose.

And 2) suing Costco is Barbara Streisand.Suing the cops might be logical....but Costco didn't fire any weapons and they didn't *cause* any weapons to be fired.Suing them is a sign that a slimey lawyer is at work here looking for *DEEP* pockets and a *HUGE* payday for himself.

And,lastly,I'd be curious to see if any toxicology tests were done in the autopsy (I'll wager there were) and how they turned out.I'd also want to see what psychiatric history,in any,Scott,and the cops,had...and what trouble,in any,Scott had with the police/courts (civilian and military) in the past...and what disciplinary problems,if any,the cops involved might have had in the past.

OK...I'm ready...flame away!

14 posted on 10/05/2010 6:41:34 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (''I don't regret setting bombs,I feel we didn't do enough.'' ->Bill Ayers,Hussein's mentor,9/11/01)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Among other VALID reasons to do so, suing Costco gets you more chance at discovery as to why all the cameras didn’t work, and work at the most important moments.


17 posted on 10/05/2010 6:45:06 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Gay State Conservative
what's the deal with *two* weapons??

A back up gun is not uncommon, especially with the small, light .380's available these days. It's called a "New York Reload" Also, guns can malfunction, it's easier to go for your backup than screw around clearing a jam.

19 posted on 10/05/2010 6:48:53 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Live jubtabulously!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
You sue Costco to hear the complete 911 recording that has NOT surfaced yet.
20 posted on 10/05/2010 6:51:23 AM PDT by Chgogal (American Mugabe, get your arse out of my bank, my car, my doctor's office & my elec. utility.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
suing Costco is Barbara Streisand.Suing the cops might be logical....but Costco didn't fire any weapons and they didn't *cause* any weapons to be fired.Suing them is a sign that a slimey lawyer is at work here looking for *DEEP* pockets and a *HUGE* payday for himself.

As it says in the article, it appears that the Costco employees (either through panic or in an effort to get faster police response) embellished their account of what Scott was doing in the store. If this led to cops thinking they were going into a confrontation with a wild-eyed armed nut, then Costco is certainly responsible. Then there's the conveniently malfunctioning surveillance equipment...

27 posted on 10/05/2010 8:09:44 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Gay State Conservative
flame away ???

no need really, you are already flaming...

31 posted on 10/05/2010 8:13:46 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gay State Conservative
I've heard of this case but don't know much about it.

You should have stopped right there.

32 posted on 10/05/2010 8:19:29 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Gay State Conservative
The ones I *won't* save are 1)Scott was carrying *two* handguns at the time,one of which he wasn't licensed to have.

Scott was carrying weapons while under the influence of drugs. That's a felony in Nevada. If he followed the law he'd still be alive. The second gun in his pocket was not on his CCW permit, which was another legal infraction.

And,lastly,I'd be curious to see if any toxicology tests were done in the autopsy (I'll wager there were) and how they turned out.

Scott had six times the normally lethal amount of morphine in his system and one time the normally lethal amount of Xanax. The mixture of the two drugs is dangerous under normal levels. Scott obtained these drugs illegally, either by doctor shopping ( a doctor shopping report on Scott was being processed for Scott before the shooting ), or with a stolen prescription pad. Scott stumbled multiple times in the store. He told one of the employees he was "messed up." He wrote illegibly on the membership application. His fiance propped him up with a shopping cart at one point.

33 posted on 10/05/2010 8:21:33 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
OK...I'm ready...flame away!

Why bother.

45 posted on 10/05/2010 9:07:20 AM PDT by Stentor ( "All cults of personality begin as high drama and end as low comedy.")
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To: Gay State Conservative
There's seems to be some dispute about there being 2 guns. Also he was always armed because he worked for a medical device company and all of their employees are armed since they have to go to questionable neighborhoods at any hour they are called.

suing Costco is Barbara Streisand

Not really as it was a Costco employee that triggered a swat like response from the police and the majority of witnesses disagree with Costco and LVPD's version of events.

And,lastly,I'd be curious to see if any toxicology tests were done in the autopsy (I'll wager there were)

There were and Scott was under the care of a pain management specialist for old injuries from military training and a car accident. The Coroner claims that he was on enough meds to outright kill someone. That is also in dispute.

Remember that the hearing only tells one side of the story.

46 posted on 10/05/2010 9:08:29 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

If such was present in his records or corpse the metro pd would have displayed that on a billboard IMO .......nothing was found.
Silence from the coroners autopsy regarding what you suggest.

Anyone know the names of the metro shooters ? Would be interested as I know a few of their wife beaters on that force that were fired from department I worked for.


108 posted on 10/05/2010 2:51:56 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Gay State Conservative
But more importantly (to me) is...what's the deal with *two* weapons?? Yah,I can see having one...I have no problem with *one*.But *two*,even if legal,suggests to me that he might have had a screw loose.

I know a few people who carry two. Most of them have past military or LEO service and heartily believe in having a 'backup' (often smaller and lighter caliber) weapon in case their strong side arm/hand is disabled in an altercation so they can continue to defend themselves without fumbling for their main weapon.

No, I neither consider it unusual nor 'crackpot', but simply good preparation for any fracas one might end up in. Since these are guys who have been in such situations either in combat or the line of duty, it seems prudent.

Keep in mind that I come from a state where the CCW is for the person, not the individual weapon: the number of weapons on your person is at your individual discretion (you do not require an individual permit for each firearm or other dangerous weapon unless NFA rules apply).

148 posted on 10/05/2010 9:49:30 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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