Jerry Brown, Meg Whitman debate. & the winner is

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/28/10 | Debra J. Saunders

[SmithL]

Jerry Brown.

Meg Whitman was too canned and promised too much.I am still waiting to see a sign that Whitman understands the issues a layer deeper than her consultant-driven talking points. And when you try to add up her promises, well, they don't add up.

I want a governor who will tell voters what they don't want to hear.

[svcw]

Brilliant. Been there done that with governor moonbeam.

[GOP_Lady]

That is disappointing, and she probably should take a little bit more time at events. I would imagine she has a very busy schedule and a life.

I’ve been to Searchlight a handful of times.

[dangus]

Isn’t she a conservative?

[ExTexasRedhead]

Jerry Brown is a CA joke and a disgrace and is guaranteed to finish off California. It’s toilet bowl time for CA guaranteed.

[GeronL]

It’s California. She is probably more conservative than Arnoldo is though.

[null and void]

I didn’t say she was better, just not worse. That would be nearly impossible.

You keep using that word, I don't think it means what you think it means. </Ingo Montoya>

[null and void]

Brown is nothing but a nepotism caused career politician.

He's got it down Pat...

[null and void]

So the Chronicle thought Moonbeam won

nooooo. The Comical said Moonbeam won.

They are trying to drive reality, not to report it.

[svcw]

“down Pat” .......... very clever and funny.

[upcountryhorseman]

At least Arnold did some nice vetoes!

[null and void]

I don’t think that the Obama administration would guarantee California’s debt. Once they do it for one state, they have to do it for all states.

Seriously?

Can you think of a more certain way to destroy the whole country?

OF COURSE he'll bail out California, New York, and as many individual states as it takes to destroy it all.

This "man" wants a legacy.

He wants to single-handedly bring down The Great Satan and have his praises sung in every mosque for thousands of years.

[null and void]

Isn’t she a conservative?

Compared to Moonbeam, Marx is a conservative.

[null and void]

*blush* Thank yew

I didn't want to forget Ol' Edmund G...

[Seaplaner]

I only heard part of it, and Whitman seemed to be doing fine for that.

Brown is a snake of the lowest order. I truly fear what he would do to the once-golden state.

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[Right Cal Gal]

Jerry Brown’s ads start out with “I’m not gonna give you some phony plan...”

Of course he won’t. If we really knew what his “plan” was, we’d never vote for him.

If I were Whitman (and I live in Cali and can’t stand the witch), I’d run that first phase of Jerry’s ad and finish with a panorama of the boarded up shops on 14th Street and voiceover “is it anything like his plan for Oakland?”

[Califreak]

Love this headline on google alt.politics:

“DemocRAT Tsunami of WhoopAss! Whitman Throws Fierce Beating on ‘Moonbeam’ Brown in Calif. Gov Debate!”

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/000537de64f28eae

I’m not real keen on Meg, but I don’t want to vote for Jerry.

[dragnet2]

If the voters vote either Whitman or Brown in, they deserve what's coming to them.

Obama, McCain....

So I guess you as an American deserves what you got!

lol...

[Seaplaner]

If I were Whitman (and I live in Cali and can’t stand the witch), I’d run that first phase of Jerry’s ad and finish with a panorama of the boarded up shops on 14th Street and voiceover “is it anything like his plan for Oakland?”

Great ad, I love it!

The ads that had the greatest impact AGAINST Brown when he ran for the Senate in 82 were the ones that mentioned his judicial appointees (by name) and the horrible decisions they handed down. I've never seen such a viscerally effective political spot, and Whitman should consider reprising it in some form.

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[Undocumented_capitalist]

I have to agree with pretty much everything in your post.
It proves my theory that borrowing to spend for consumption
instead of investing will lead you to bankruptcy.

It is significant that most of the states in dire straits are run by
democrat majorities.

[NVDave]

Yes, it is significant that the states in the most dire structural financial messes are run by Democrats. If the GOP stands back away from the governor’s seat in CA, they could make a solid claim that the Democrats are responsible for the five biggest basket cases of the 50. I’ve maintained that the GOP should never have recalled Grey Davis, because the structural problems began all the way back in the 2000 legislature, when they spent a windfall in tax revenues from the dot-com non-qual stock grants that people were exercising in ‘98, ‘99, and ‘00.

Come ‘01, the tax revenues suddenly disappeared and the state’s finances started downhill like a Flexible Flyer sled on a sheet of ice. Unless the legislature rescinds the retirement and wage package(s) handed out to the public employees, the current tax revenue and CalPERS pension investing returns cannot keep up with the size of the draw on the state budgets.

Illinois is in even deeper troubles, if one can imagine that. Michigan is a well known basket case, NY State will not be able to close their budget problems as Wall Street contracts.

The fifth state in my list might surprise people: Oregon.