Posted on 09/24/2010 9:34:59 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
This comes from a Vegas paper, so I'll summarize:
Day 1 of the inquest into the police shooting of Eric Scott at a Las Vegas Costco emphasized the large amount of prescription painkillers found in his body. The assistant DA suggested Scott was suicidal.
Day 2 apparently spent a bunch of time explaining why there will be no video...basically, the machines weren't working, sorry.
Then the cop who was closest to Scott testified. In his testimony, he says the gun found by investigators was in its holster, and that he didn't realize the gun was in its holster when he shot Scott. That info comes about 2/3 of the way into the article:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2010/sep/23/officer-deadly-shooting-says-man-pointed-gun-didnt/
(Excerpt) Read more at lasvegassun.com ...
I think you’re wasting your fire on good cops.
I don’t think Detroit is a particularly good example of a jurisdiction that needs less law enforcement. As I understand it, the sad state of affairs in Michigan is not law enforcement propaganda.
SnakeDoc
You don't shoot three people in five years on the force without being aggressive...
>If you got your feelings hurt because I think you and your ilk are “anti-cop” ... you’ll have to suck-it-up.
I am certainly *not* on the side of the police in this incident; at the VERY least this incident shows a lethal incompetence [particularly in the area of command & control] on the parts of the officers; does *that* make me anti-cop?
When the police act in a manner as to be anti-liberty and I oppose that, does that make me anti-cop?
{And don’t think for a second that I can’t back up what I claim about the police [sometimes] acting against liberty.}
>If you got your feelings hurt because I think you and your ilk are “anti-cop” ... you’ll have to suck-it-up.
I am certainly *not* on the side of the police in this incident; at the VERY least this incident shows a lethal incompetence [particularly in the area of command & control] on the parts of the officers; does *that* make me anti-cop?
When the police act in a manner as to be anti-liberty and I oppose that, does that make me anti-cop?
{And don’t think for a second that I can’t back up what I claim about the police [sometimes] acting against liberty.}
>If you got your feelings hurt because I think you and your ilk are “anti-cop” ... you’ll have to suck-it-up.
I am certainly *not* on the side of the police in this incident; at the VERY least this incident shows a lethal incompetence [particularly in the area of command & control] on the parts of the officers; does *that* make me anti-cop?
When the police act in a manner as to be anti-liberty and I oppose that, does that make me anti-cop?
{And don’t think for a second that I can’t back up what I claim about the police [sometimes] acting against liberty.}
LOL! Yeah, what he said! :-)
>Horiuchi is irrelevant ... as are you. Move along, Mumia.
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>SnakeDoc
Horiuchi is actually relevant, but not in any of the posts which I’ve read so far; here’s how:
The FBI’s Rules Of Engagement [ROE] as issued on the Ruby Ridge incident was “any adult male was to be considered armed and dangerous; lethal force authorized.”
Horiuchi, the FBI’s sniper, shot a *woman* under that ROE, which was not authorized. Consider that one of the rules of Gun Safty is “be sure of your target and its surroundings,” this is a general rule for all firearm-handlers but it is CRUCIAL in the work of a SNIPER... a ranged shot means *nothing* if it does not hit the *intended* target - that very intent and focus on the target make the “I was confused [about my target]” or “I wasn’t sure about my target” UTTERLY unacceptable.
Granted the police officers were not sniping at Erik Scott, but they should have been aware of him and his actual actions... not interpreting his movements into a predetermined ‘template.’ {i.e. He was moving /= he was drawing a weapon} Likewise, as mentioned earlier, there was an utter failure on the police side concerning command and control.
My wife and I’ve known this lady for over ten years. I wouldn’t have any concerns about being seen in public with her, such as at a restaurant. She is always well mannered and polite. So, I am going to presume that she did her job at the strip club without violating the law and within her personal boundaries. She has two children, didn’t choose abortions as a way out. So what the true cost would be I don’t know but apparently she nor her husband minded that cost.
...sometimes saying something twice just isn’t enough. ;)
But seriously, sorry about the triple-post; my computer was hanging and I hit refresh a couple of times.
Detroit is not the entire state of Michigan (though the racists that run Detroit may like to think so). Michigan should not need 100% more tax dollars than any other state to deal with law enforcement & the legal machinery.
I believe what the problem is at the base is that the people who are benefiting from the "crime factory" are deliberately getting in the way of proper justice in order to perpetuate their lucrative careers.
There are many telling examples of this trend, but one of the more recent & egregious is this business in Connecticut, where two thugs (products of the local imprisonment industry) broke into a house and murdered most of the family. Now, in days gone by, before the "crime factories", these slimy dregs would have drawn their last breaths mere days later, but three years later, they're still polluting the air of the law-abiding populace in their area.
The husband & father, who survived, should be able to take matters into his own hands, but they've apparently trained the serfs in Connecticut very well, and the local populace sits still while the money-milking dog-and-pony "justice" show goes on.
As part of the collateral damage in that case, the police are taking heat for not handling the situation correctly.
If there wasn't a phony "concern" on the part of the cynical manipulators of the tax-largess-generating system for the substandard brand of "justice" we peasants get from the "crime factories", I'm sure the local police would have been able to resolve the issue with the loss of only two lives - those of the still-breathing scumbags.
I doubt if the problem would have even arisen in the first place...
And BTW - Mumia would be pushing up his 27th crop of daisies, instead of living to sully the memory of Dan Faulkner.
So much for your keen observational skills and resume.
Be a man, correct your self and apologize.
...says the guy who fancies himself a part of an elite citizenry.
>So much for your keen observational skills and resume.
I never cited my keen observational skills; and never commented on the content itself as I did not have access to the stream/video.
All I did was observe that if the testimony were ‘scrambled’ (the events recounted being disjoint) it could be that the witness said one thing [implying that it happened earlier or later] and then later clarified that statement to revise the time to some other point; this can be a common occurrence when there is a significant gap/break in the presentation of the events.
I was referring to sf boy’s post about this keen observational skills. I only copied you because you suggested that we may both be right.
>I was referring to sf boy’s post about this keen observational skills. I only copied you because you suggested that we may both be right.
Ah, gotcha.
I should say that I get the sort of scrambled-conversation I illustrated from my mom a lot; she’ll can stare a conversation, and then hours later [with other activities & conversations intervening] resume that conversation... it can be a bit puzzling at times... but nowhere near when my dad is working on something and requests “that thing” pointing at his tools. {”No, not the hammer, the THING! The screwdriver!”}
Sounds like he was showing the Cops that his gun was holstered. Also sounds like they intended to shoot him, regardless of the facts.
Some holsters have a snap on the loop so you can remove the holster, with the gun therein, with ease. I do that daily. Safer because the trigger is never exposed unless you draw in earnest. Since this guy was told to draw and drop it, he complied as safely as he could - remove holster containing gun.
You have no honor then.
The issue will still be there come Monday - I know I don't trust a darn thing papers say.
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