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1 posted on 09/22/2010 1:59:40 PM PDT by Blue Turtle
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To: Blue Turtle

The “real” truth about the titanic that the government doesn’t want you to know.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=af07

There’s videos and everything. Even a “scientific” experiment.


2 posted on 09/22/2010 2:02:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Blue Turtle

Second posting of this today.

Many prior FReeper posts pointed out the obvious — that ‘sailing vessels’ (think the USS Constitution and the Charles W Morgan) had ship’s wheels way back in the early 1800s. Tillers had been out of use on ships of any size for generations.

Sorry, but this story doesn’t pass the smell test.


3 posted on 09/22/2010 2:03:03 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Blue Turtle

Take a left, right here.


4 posted on 09/22/2010 2:03:49 PM PDT by Ed Condon (Give 'em a heading, an altitude, and a reason.)
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To: Blue Turtle

Something odd about this story. The the first steam ship crossed the Atlantic in 1837 and the definitive transition from sail to steam occurred at roughly the same time as the American Civil War, although there were a few sailing ships around until the turn of that century. The Titanic went down in 1912.


9 posted on 09/22/2010 2:10:56 PM PDT by La Lydia
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I thought the problem was that the navigation orders were "Turn left at big iceberg that look like bear, then turn right at big bear that look like iceberg."

-PJ

12 posted on 09/22/2010 2:17:09 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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I can’t speak for Hitchin’s actions, but Charles Brown wrote a great book about how the ship was well and truly sunk when Ismay ordered Smith to steam for Halifax, NS-in essence, driving the ship under. This is proven by the fact that Ismay ordered trains to pick up passengers in Halifax.


14 posted on 09/22/2010 2:21:26 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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No, the sinking of the Titanic was George W. Bush’s fault.


15 posted on 09/22/2010 2:24:41 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The usual order would be “hard a (to) starboard” or “hard a port” in such an emergency. Meaning turn right or turn left.

With a tiller, it would be understood that you shove the tiller to starboard in order to turn to port, and vice versa. With a wheel, you move the top of the wheel to port to turn to port, as in a car.

But large sailing ships often had wheels, and as far as I know they were hooked up as they are today.

So, this may be barely possible, but it seems very doubtful to me.


23 posted on 09/22/2010 3:05:16 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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I recall reading years ago that Titanic’s wheel worked like a tiller in that to go left you had to turn right. I remember wondering WTH?


25 posted on 09/22/2010 3:59:58 PM PDT by TalBlack
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