Posted on 09/07/2010 7:28:57 PM PDT by earlJam
Edited on 09/08/2010 2:27:45 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
If the Fred Phelps character is not a scheme concocted by marxist Alinskyites for the purpose of making Christians look bad, then he’s Little Bo Peep.
Now it appears Terry Jones is the same thing. No different from the trolls who want to harm this forum.
1. It’s perfectly acceptable - and correct - to say Islam is of the devil.
2. It’s perfectly acceptable - and correct - to say that the judgement of God is coming against America for turning away from God’s law and providence.
3. It does not, however, follow that the death of any given soldier (who more than likely is a Christian since we have a red state army) is a sign of God’s wrath.
Standing with that old supporter of Al Gore - Fred Phelps - discredits any cause.
If you stand with these people then YOU are.
I doubt the contention that they are Christians based on their support of this:
Phelps and Jones are two peas in a pod. Both claim to be Christians and do whatever they can do in order to get in the headlines.
This is a publicity stunt by a charlatan.
....but this is the first thing that ran through my head..”
Keep running with it because that’s the way out of this mess...it’s running towards the light of truth!
ping.
if this guy supports “God hates soldiers” then forget him.
There are a few Freepers who I think would be 100% supporters of Phelps if he only could just stay away from the military funerals.
"Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together and burned them before all men and they counted the price of them and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed." Acts 19:19-20
Doesn’t appear to be the type of person we want anything to do with.
OK, so he’s a crazy person. I was thinking this was going to be the spark that lights the fuse for the clash of civilizations that’s coming, and it still may be, but he’s no Charles Martel or Jan Sobieski, neither of whom would have been petty enough to light up a stupid book anyway - they went riding into battle with their SWORDS, not their tinderboxes.
And if he or members of his congregation become victims of Islamic Terrorism because they burned a Koran and we say nothing, then Islam has won and everything our soldiers have been fighting and dying for has been in vain.
The guy is an ass. And Politics makes for strange bedfellows.
The Great Commission of Islam is "Kill the infidels wherever you find them".
The truth of the matter is that Osama Bin Laden did more for the advancement of Islam in America than anyone else. The American political reaction to the 9/11 attack has been to coddle Muslims, to make them the victims and to promote their agenda.
If this guy were to burn a copy of the Book of Mormon, or a copy of the Bible, nobody would care. But because his plan is to burn a copy of the Koran, everyone seems to want to be on the side of those who have a mission to destroy this nation and to institute worldwide Sharia.
If the terrorist threats against him are fulfilled and he is killed by terrorists, then this is not just an attack on some ass who has sympathy for Fred Phelps, it is an attack on all Americans and and attack on Liberty.
If we are going to join in the chorus of those who condemn him for this act, then we have to realize that we are joining in with the likes of Obama, Eric Holder, Hillary Clinton and Osama Bin Laden.
Frankly I would suspect that Fred Phelps probably opposes the burning of the Koran by this preacher because Fred Phelps apparently thinks that the Muslims are doing God's will. And if that is the case, you can add Fred Phelps to the list above.
I agreed with your points on this on a different thread/different post. We’re on the same sheet.
I am simply referring to the guy himself....not his rights or his rightness on THIS PARTICULAR issue.
Holder and Homeland Security should be all over him over the threats against him. If we need another advocate of Koran burning to make the point that we’re not afraid of the terrorists, then I’ll nominate you, and you can nominate me.
It’s just ink & paper burning and death threats ensue? How insanely unamerican is that?
I would bet my house that he would only be getting death threats from Muslims. Anyone want to take that bet?
But then again nobody ever accused Pastor Jones of being smart.
“if this guy supports God hates soldiers then forget him.”
Unfortunately, some in here could`nt care less. As long as Jones burns some korans, they are perfectly comfortable with his supporting “God hates soldiers.”
A good stack of books other than the koran would emphasize that the issue is free speech that’s free of death threats.
I like the idea.
You are hereby nominated to take this exercise over from Pastor Jones who lost his ammo if true that he supported “God hates soldiers.”
David was a soldier. So was Joshua. Gideon. Etc.
It supports my opinions stated yesterday.
This is a BAD thing, and now I know why. These are BAD people posing as Christians....
That is an extreme statement that doesn't hold water, P-Marlowe.
There are many Biblical principles that support opposing this irresponsible attention-grabbing act, and it has nothing to do with supporting the political left, and especially not Islamo-fascism.
The fact that he supports the very non-Christian Fred Phelps is further proof that this is a bad actor doing a bad thing.
As for your pinging me yesterday, the fact that a Pope burned the Torah doesn't exactly support your position with principle either.
Book burning may be a protected act under the Constitution, but all protected speech is not something we, as conservatives, and as Christians should support.
Book burning is a BAD idea, and now we know that the people doing it are not the kind of people we can support.
hmmm...wonder if they’ll give this kind of attention to the asian environmental guy who held people hostage???
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