Posted on 08/21/2010 12:08:13 PM PDT by Tom Hawks
I and others have written extensively about the wolf reintroduction program and the destruction it has caused since the first 60 were released into Yellowstone Park and Idaho in 1995. What we are attempting to do with these articles is to wake up as many people as possible about the danger the left has put Americans in.
There is a Wolf Cult in America that has convinced many Americans that it would be a good thing to have wild wolves as neighbors in our local parks. Well I for one, and many like me, do not wish to be confronted by a wolf when we decide to go fishing or camping. Especially since the wolves that are being introduced into our parks, like to roam in packs. So if you see one you can bet the farm there are more lurking around near by.
Gate was given permission to post, in whole, an article written by T. R. Mader, the Research Director of AWS which is an independent research organization. Mader has researched wolf history for more than 15 years before he wrote this article. He has since traveled extensively as he continues conducting research and interviews on environmental issues.
Mader wrote this article at the height of furor over the wolf re-introduction program in 1995 & 96. It's my hope that by posting this, many of you will have a better understanding of the anger many ranchers, farmers, hunters, and even regular small town city folk have with a program that has proved to be everything those against the program warned about some 15 years ago.
Due to the length of the article, it has been divided into three parts, and instead of creating three separate posts on FR, I have created three links below for you to follow if you so desire to read the article, "Myths, Legends, & Misconceptions of the Wolf".
Part 1- Misconceptions 1 to 6
Part 2 - Misconceptions 7 to 12
Part 3 - Conclusion & Bibliography
Besides this is Virginia and there are guns all over the place just waiting for targets. One reason we have an exceptionally low crime rate.
Frankly, I don't think a smaller animal can take care of the 110,000 surplus deer around here and not get all worn out.
Fur Shur they will be safer to use to clear dear than would, for example, a snow leopard.
You think it's fine for the community to use it guns so coyote "packs would not be tolerated", but oppose their use on roving herds of deer.
Yet you are advocating the reintroduction of wolves which lives and hunts in packs and is an even larger predator and one that would be illegal to shoot. Your logic needs some work.
The link you provided shows the Coyote we have here. They are quite large and in the dark look just like a red Siberian Husky. I have heard they have some wolf DNA that makes them so much larger than regular Coyotes.
Son #1 when he would come over, we'd pop rabbits to keep them out of my flower gardens in the back.. He said when he tells his buddy's he and his mother shoot rabbits off the deck, they don't believe him...(but it was just BB guns, hurt but did't kill.) After 3 years, no rabbits came into my back yard...(I think they whispered to each other like in the tale of Peter Rabbit) **Don't go into Mr Mcgreggors garden, your father never returned from there.** :O)
Your state game department can even control the deer population, what makes you think they will be able to effectively control a wolf population? Plus you’ll have the Feds intervening and the enviros suing under the Endangered Species Act.
You won’t solve your deer problem, you’ll merely create a wolf problem.
The solution is cheap and plentiful doe tags allowing them to be hunted 365 days a year. If necessary pay a $20 bounty for every doe head brought in for a year or two.
Not that the numnutz lefties will allow it, but it would do the trick. The correct predator for the problem is man.
You would hike all day to see that in an area where deer were considered plentiful.
How awful! I’m so sorry about the loss of your best friend. I walked outside one day because my outside dogs were having fits. There was a huge gray wolf standing in the yard on the other side of the fence looking at my dogs. I was startled to see a wolf because I didn’t think we had gray wolves here. It ran off when it saw me. I wasn’t so concerned about my three outside dogs because one is a 110lb Bloodhound and the other two are 60lb Mountain Curs. What did worry me was that my Jack Russell plays in the other fenced yard. His yard is attached to the house but the big dogs fence yard is not. If that happened to my Jack Russell I would never get over it.
I called the TWRA and found out that gray wolves are not native here but some of the 99% hybrids escaped from a kennel near us and went wild. Nobody has been able to catch them so.....I guess we have gray wolves. :-( We know there are two that hang out on our farm. Fortunately we are in a very rural area. My husband was able to touch one so they aren’t extremely wild but he wasn’t able to catch it.
I just hope they don’t cross breed with out large Coyotes. :-)
You seem to be unable to come to grips with the truth about wolves. They will not solve your deer problem without making a wolf problem that will make the deer problem pale in comparison.
You want to keep the deer out of your yard then get a deer or elk hound of some type.
Once again, if your state game department wasn’t controlled by enviros that prefer to control humans for the benefit of wildlife instead of properly controlling wildlife for the benefit of humans, your county would not be over-run. Your problem is political and won’t be solved by adding wolves to further entrench their stupid anti-human policies.
Wolves still look like a reasonable alternative AND, best of all, they'll force those gardeners who have been feeding the deer indoors!
It got killed by
a moose.
not to mention the dealy moose-car collisions - often resulting in death for the car occupant:
moose kill more people than wolves.
and if you ever come across one in the road - and don't hit it - stop and stay VERY still. Otherwise, it has a tendancy to think of you/your car as a challenger...and he CAN stomp your car into the ground.
I’ve seen a local tom who looks both ways before crossing.
I hear that wolves love illegal meat. No one seems to notice they are missing if eaten.
That statement is ridiculous. Hunting seasons are for hunting as a sport, for the taking of game for those that enjoy consuming it and for controlling game populations.
If your game populations are out of control, it's because the your game department isn't encouraging the hunting of game appropriately and neither is your community.
Bragging about your state's gun laws is specious, since gun rights are about self protection, not hunting. Start hunting and eating venison. Hang some deer hides on your fence line. Every doe you eat is one that doesn't breed. It looks like you're allow to bag five or six deer a year, so do it.
Hunting seasons separate agricultural activity from pursuit of game to protect farmers from the hunters, and the hunters from the farmers (and both from themselves if they play both roles).
The theory that limiting taking results in more game for later years is nonsense. These animals have to eat, and if there's nothing to eat, they don't reproduce. If resources are limited there will be plenty of animals starving to death in the winter. With the removal of the wolves and other predators from the picture, ethical men must cull the herd to match the resource levels else the remaining animals are harmed.
This is an urban area ~ people live cheek to jowl, head to toe, in ticky tacky woodframe houses with aluminum foil walls.
Firing shotguns knocks the nails out of their plasterboard.
Arrows are less acceptable because they are "silent".
You do realize the game don't gather in the roads, or vast open areas. They are walking around in backyards!
Wrong. If you increase the number of kills a hunter can have or increase the season of hunting, then the number o deer in the out back parts of the state will dwindle. Then the deer will not feel the need to come into the urban areas. They only come to the urban areas because the population in the undeveloped part6s of the state are over crowded.
Believe me. The deer do not want to come around people no more than you want them too. But the population where there is no humans is way too high. So allow the hunters to increase their kills. I guarantee you that within a year maybe two. The deer will then stop coming into the urban areas because they will have more room to roam in the country because they will not feel crowded out.
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