Posted on 08/20/2010 7:30:35 AM PDT by jessduntno
Much like FR, we had a no porn and no potty mouth policy. That's typically all we would remove. Occasionally, someone would post copyrighted material.
TRUE. TRUE. And it is okay to destroy others over a difference of opinion. It is how liberals think.
God help us in our day, in Jesus name, amen..
If he had sent this to his family and friends that'd be one thing. The email list in question contained parents of kids from his school. Unfortunately, in society the way it is, that makes it the school's business. Yes, there are as you say TRUE conservatives here who would defend anyone in cases like this. And if you don't think a lot of the people here would get their panties in a bunch if the content were different well, I think you're wrong.
Ummmm ... I'm not sure what inalienable right we are defending here?
The right to do a dumb thing?
The right to not be accountable?
As I posted before:
Your "personal e-mail list" should be limited to your "personal friends".
His was not.
His "personal e-mail list", included "parents from Grassland Middle School, where he coached football."
If you send your political opinions to your personal friends on your "personal e-mail list": No problem.
If you send your political opinions to a list of your employer's clients that you copied and pasted into the list of your personal friends on your "personal e-mail list": Big problem.
His defense should be as follows:
"I intended to send a partisan political joke to my personal friends and forgot that that I had copied and pasted a group of the parents of my students on a "personal list" that should have been strictly personal.
I am sorry and I apologize. Such a mishap will not happen again.
I will ensure that, in the future, "personal mail lists" and "working mailing lists" will remain separate on my computer."
Well, he’s in trouble because he forgot to include MMMMMM....MMMMMM....MMMMMM in his lyrics.
Sorry. I’ve received much much worse than this in emails, both personal and work. This is kids stuff and not even remotely close to being worthy of firing the guy over.
Did this guy work at a private school? If not then he worked for the government. So sez the Government when they rule that Prayer cannot be done in schools.
Actions have consequences - he had to have known that not everyone thinks like him.
I say “Shut up and sing” when it comes to liberals, and I say “Shut up and coach” when it comes to something like this.
The email list in question contained parents of kids from his school. Unfortunately, in society the way it is, that makes it the school’s business.”
You are making a pretty big leap there, hoss. He emailed to a list “which included parents from Grassland Middle School, where he coached football.”
It doesn’t say ALL parents or that he obtained them from a school list. If the guy had some of their emails because he knew them, or they had emailed HIM about putting little Johnny in at quarterback, that’s a whole different story.
This guy was a coach, not a teacher. I coached a LOT of baseball and football (about 20 years worth) and knew almost everyone in town ... and some liked me, some didn’t (hard to believe, I know) but if there was an issue like this, it would have come up first in a meeting.
The Mantra of the left - of which they do not practice, by the way.
“The constitutional right to free speech only prevents legal repercussions against a person from the government, not to repercussions from private individuals or employees.”
Is this school not a government sponsored instituion?
Obam He Gonna Be Our President (C)2010 Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna be our pre-si-dent Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna bring us hope and change Aint gonna worry bout the mortgage or the car havin gas From now on we're gonna sit on our YES WE CAN! Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna give us every-thing --------------------------------------------------------- He promised if e-lected he would stick it to the man But we didn't know he meant The man that owned the plant Now the factory's closed All the jobs went south Life is pretty rotten livin - hand to mouth Uh-oh Oh-bam-a you sure stuck it to the man CHORUS --------------------------------------------------------- Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna be our pre-si-dent Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna bring us hope and change Aint gonna worry bout the mortgage or the car havin gas From now on we're gonna sit on our YES WE CAN! Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna give us every-thing --------------------------------------------------------- He gave a purdy speech yeah he talked about hope and change But how were we to know he meant a socialist u-to-pi-ay Now we're losin our homes and the market's crashed A depression is a comin and it's - a comin fast Oh no Oh-bam-a we didn't need that kind of change CHORUS --------------------------------------------------------- Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna be our pre-si-dent Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna bring us hope and change Aint gonna worry bout the mortgage or the car havin gas From now on we're gonna sit on our YES WE CAN! Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna give us every-thing --------------------------------------------------------- He says that it's all Bush's fault he tells us every day But Bush left town two years ago so how is Bush to blame Obama spent the country so far into to debt Now he thinks he's gonna fix it with a - a printing press Oh no Oh-bam-a you're gonna bankrupt the USA CHORUS --------------------------------------------------------- Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna be our pre-si-dent Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna bring us hope and change Aint gonna worry bout the mortgage or the car havin gas From now on we're gonna sit on our YES WE CAN! Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna give us every-thing --------------------------------------------------------- Now people need to ask hows that hope n change workin out But Unless you're in the government well the bottoms fallin out And if workin for the governemnt is all that's left It's kinda like a snake just a eatin itself Oh no Oh-bam-a ya only brought us rope and chains CHORUS --------------------------------------------------------- Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna be our pre-si-dent Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna bring us hope and change Aint gonna worry bout the mortgage or the car havin gas From now on we're gonna sit on our YES WE CAN! Ohhh Oh-bam-a he gonna give us every-thing ---------------------------------------------------------
Right, you have to do it in secret, or you’ll lose your job. Just like the Soviet Union.
What we’re seeing here is a standard FR debate on “free speech” issues.
You’re correct, there are folks who would call for his head, didn’t mean to infer otherwise.
I don’t see where the parents have any standing in the matter to demand he be fired for a personal email message that contained nothing truly offensive or criminal. As another poster mentioned, you DON’T have the right to NOT be offended in this country.
It’s a simple matter of doing one of two things; 1) Hit the DELETE key, 2) ask the sender to remove them from his list.
The abject immaturity displayed by these “people” is absolutely stunning. But, since they appear to be 0 supporters, I’m not surprised anymore.
I stand by my original assertion, I hope the “collective” loses their “collective” asses on this.
I think the people who forced this man out of his livelihood are bastards. How would they like it if they lost their jobs for something they said? It’s what the Left deigns to call “McCarthyism”.
I notice “Obama” is still a non word in spell check. Could it be FR is making a political statement? :^)
Agreed, and if it were a leftwing screed, we would be vocally supportive of having him fired.
After musing on this for a bit, a thought struck me! Were the people responsible for a large group of students singing that “Mmmmm - Mmmmm - Mmmmmm, Barak Hussein Obama” song fired from their TEACHING positions? IIRC, there was a large outcry over that too. So, if the message is one that is agreeable with liberals you get to keep your job, but if the message angers liberals you get fired? So much for equity in America!!!
It’s because polarizing people is a dumb thing to do.
The Mantra of the left - of which they do not practice, by the way.
That sunovabich Ward Churchill spread communist venom in schools FOR YEARS ... do we need to mention William Ayers? ...and now we are seriously talking about this poor guy getting the ax for writing a song that has NO venom in it? Just happens to contain an anti-Obama message?
Good grief.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.