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No, Mr. President
Wekkly Standard ^

Posted on 08/14/2010 8:52:05 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

No, Mr. President BY William Kristol August 14, 2010 11:30 AM

Penetrating commentary on President Obama's remarks last night on Islam, 9/11, and Ground Zero is already available.

The lawyers at Powerline dissect Obama's high-flown rhetoric: "a classic of brain-dead multiculturalism," "the ultimate destination of multiculturalism is platitudinous stupidity." Debra Burlingame of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America has a powerful statement: "We are stunned by the president's willingness to disregard what Americans should be proud of: our enduring generosity to others on 9/11--a day when human decency triumphed over human depravity. On that day, when 3,000 of our fellow human beings were killed in barbaric act of raw religious intolerance unlike this country had ever seen, Americans did not turn outward with hatred or violence, we turned to each other, armed with nothing more than American flags and countless acts of kindness. In a breathtakingly inappropriate setting, the president has chosen to declare our memories of 9/11 obsolete and the sanctity of Ground Zero finished." "Bad Rachel" is properly contemptuous: "an act of appeasement...[that] will avail him the same scornful response he’s received repeatedly already, and it will keep the rest of us in harm’s way."

I'd just add one comment.

Obama: "Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. The pain and suffering experienced by those who lost loved ones is unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground."

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KEYWORDS: hussein; muslim; obamamosque; soetoro
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To: peeps36

I completely agree. Just wish I didn’t feel so impotent to help fix it beyond the November election.

I tried to tell people about him all during 2008. My conservative friends didn’t need convincing, and my liberal friends were all high on the smoke from the hopey-changey doobies.


21 posted on 08/14/2010 9:34:20 AM PDT by Fudd Fan (To annoy a conservative, lie to them. To annoy a marxist lib, tell them the truth.)
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To: spodefly

“Obama (like Bloomberg) doesn’t feel he even has to engage the arguments against the mosque—because he regards his fellow citizens as emotionally traumatized victims, not citizens who might have a reasonable point of view.”

Did he ignore the views of the majority of voters in the health care debate because he thought they were emotionally traumatized? No, he ignored them because they were inconvenient to achieving his leftist agenda and because quite clearly, he believes he knows better than the ignorant citizens how health care should be handled.

Thus, his position on the mosque is simply more of the same, not some unique posture he has adopted on grounds that in this particular instance the public was emotionally traumatized.

Name a single issue on which Obama believes the public has a “reasonable” point of view. A majority supports the Arizona law, for example, but that didn’t stop his AG from suing Arizona over it. In both Gallup and WSJ polls recently, the public disapproves of his handling of a dozen major issues. That’s pretty clear evidence of just how far outside the mainstream this president’s views and policy positions are.

He’d like you to believe his unpopularity is because he’s taken on the “tough” issues. In reality, the public disagrees with his approach to how those issues should be resolved. But it’s hard for him and his advisors to see this simple truth when they believe that they know best. People could not in good conscience support “nanny state” policies unless they did believe they knew better than the ignorant public how people should best conduct their lives. It’s an extraordinarily undemocratic posture.


22 posted on 08/14/2010 9:46:09 AM PDT by DrC
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To: Sub-Driver

Obama and his minions use the raw emotion of his detractors to dismiss their concerns. Calm yourselves, Fellow Freepers. Opoposition to him must be cold and calculating. For purely rational and legal reasons he must be put down like a mad dog.


23 posted on 08/14/2010 9:46:31 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: 240B; Sub-Driver; All
Foolishly, Americans are too trusting. The fix is in ....the major medias are owned by big parts/shares by Saudi monies, Soros money, Murdock, and others:who have put the word out favor Obama. Can anyone deny that they do. All of them, some major things never get any press at all. Little is said in regard to his speeches cutting the Military (West Point), and recently to the Marine Corps, by Gibbs.

All the while they being those that are out to destroy America play by very different rules. You are seeing and have been seeing what they are for two years now. A thousand cuts on every fronts are occurring.
ALL IS QUIET IN AMERICA.

RIGHT NOW WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE IMMIGRATION ISSUES, AND THE HOMOSEXUAL ISSUES, AND ABORTION. All real and serious issues.

A THOUSAND CUTS. THE COMING ELECTIONS, getting organized.

ARE WE REALLY GOING TO WALK INTO THE EQUIVALENT OF THE GAS CHAMBERS AND EXPECT NOTHING TOO SERIOUS OR UNRECOVERABLE TO HAPPEN??? AS WE DIE?

We just might be years recovering from where we have allowed ourselves to be lead now.

God help us in our day, we love You, LORD. We repent of our malaise, and seek forgiveness, we have turned away from You LORD. Show mercy and loving kindness on those who seek to know and serve You, thank You for hearing our prayer, Your Word says You will bless those that seek You with a true heart. in Jesus name, amen.

24 posted on 08/14/2010 9:46:51 AM PDT by Countyline (God loves you ... He wants you to love Him back; to learn of Him and obey His commands.)
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To: Amos the Prophet
Euthanasia comes to mind.
25 posted on 08/14/2010 9:47:26 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (They are the vultures of Dark Crystal screeeching their hatred and fear into the void ....)
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To: Sub-Driver

Legally, assuming the property is owned by the Mosque people, I guess they have every right to build it. This does not mean they should build it, though.

I think of it this way, say my friend’s mom recently died in a horrible accident. When I saw him, free speech says that I have every right make this comment, “Well, you have nothing to do on mother’s day this year because your mom just died!! Ha!” The point is, free speech protects my right to say that asinine comment but, common sense, respect for the situation, and human decency says, I would be an ass for making it in the first place. And, to take this even further, I seriously doubt anyone would stand up and defend my right to make that comment. Most likely, they would trash my boorish behavior and leave the room.

Bottom Line: no one says that the Mosque wouldn’t be legal if built. What we’re saying is that the people building it are being ass holes, insensitive, and provocative for doing it. It’s not even built yet and it’s already divisive and painful. It’s very clear this structure will be the target of vandalism and other controversy’s. The Islams will then use these incidents to play the Islamophobic card. Wow, that’ll be helpful to the healing process. On the flip side, some very controversial Imam’s will be called in to give hate speeches which will grate on America’s nerves. Again, that’ll soothe the tensions 9/11 caused. This is not rocket science. This is what will happen. Building it is a huge mistake for everyone: Muslims and Non-muslims alike.

President Obama strikes me as a man who has a huge chip on his shoulder. He obviously loves taking digs at the very people who put him in office. At the very least he should have said nothing. I can’t wait to throw his entire crew out of office. For one, he obviously never took basic economics in high school. For two, he really doesn’t like the US of A in any way that I can understand.


26 posted on 08/14/2010 9:48:54 AM PDT by Mustangman (The GOP)
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To: La Lydia
Looking on the bright side, every Democrat running for re-election must be holding their head in their hands and moaning.

I don't know...Keith Ellison and Andre Carson are probably really jazzed.

But you're no doubt correct that the Obama's campaign-season schedule is suddenly a largely clear slate. Michelle is giddy with the possibilities for even more obscenely extravagant vacations on the taxpayers' dime, and Obama's already booking his tee times.

27 posted on 08/14/2010 9:49:00 AM PDT by Eroteme
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To: Sub-Driver
Obama, in the mosque speech:

"They remind us of the basic truth that we are all children of God, and we all draw strength and a sense of purpose from our beliefs."

In your case, would those be Muslim beliefs or Reverend Wright's beliefs Mr. President?

28 posted on 08/14/2010 9:56:24 AM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Sub-Driver

Compare this...

“Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. The pain and suffering experienced by those who lost loved ones is unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground.”

To this...

“I can hear you, the rest of the world can hear you and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon.”


29 posted on 08/14/2010 9:59:48 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: Eroteme

If you remember, in 2008, Obama did not campaign much for other Dems. He even had separate campaign offices (from the DNC) in most areas.


30 posted on 08/14/2010 10:03:37 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Girlene

My comment on the Yahoo story:

So we “have” to let Islamists build a mosque/cultural center within spitting distance of the most spectacular act of Islamic terrorism ever seen...but it’s perfectly OK for Muslim countries to ban the construction of churches, the distribution of Judeo-Christian literature, and the conversion of Muslims to any other religion upon pain of death. The hell you say.

There are dozens of other mosques in New York City, and dozens of other places that they could be built besides that close to the WTC site. This is nothing more than an obvious finger in the eye to the United States, by radical Muslims, after 9/11, and if you can’t see that, you’re willfully blind.

}:-)4


31 posted on 08/14/2010 10:34:46 AM PDT by Moose4 (November 2, 2010--the day that "YES WE CAN" becomes "OH NO YOU DIN'T")
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To: Sub-Driver
Consider the possibility that he wants to lose this November, so he too (i.e. Clinton), can move to the middle, moderate, and get re-elected.

Ran across a verse today from Proverbs 12:11.

"He that tilleth his land shall be satisfied with bread: but he that followeth vain persons is void of understanding" Not particularly apt to this discussion, but struck me when I read it.

32 posted on 08/14/2010 11:08:54 AM PDT by pm58590
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To: melancholy
Nah, what would 0h0m0 do with two virgins?

Obviously clarification is needed.

They're young boys.

33 posted on 08/14/2010 11:11:33 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: mountn man
Obviously clarification is needed.

They're young boys.

Aah! You're right!

34 posted on 08/14/2010 11:52:18 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: Fudd Fan

I really loath this man.


35 posted on 08/14/2010 11:52:24 AM PDT by altura
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To: Moose4

I agree. The comments on their article are over 39,000, now. obama picked the wrong side of this controversy..... but he usually does.


36 posted on 08/14/2010 12:06:08 PM PDT by Girlene (o has the stink)
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To: Sub-Driver

“a day when human decency triumphed over human depravity.”

Demonrat punks like Bam-Bam prefer depravity. They are depraved and demonic.


37 posted on 08/14/2010 1:53:43 PM PDT by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: Mustangman

“Bottom Line: no one says that the Mosque wouldn’t be legal if built.”

I made a lengthy post on another thread about this topic. It was about what constitutes protected religion in this country. I think a case could be made that Islam, although recognized as “one of the world’s three great religions,” is actually a tyrannical political system masquerading as a religion. Not sure if you were around when Waco happened. Some things cannot (or at least the govt. THOUGHT they could not) be tolerated just because they are part of someone’s “religion,” hence the tanks and conflagration at Waco. I guess I’m asking when Islam ceases to be a religion and becomes viewed as a terroristic group? What keeps a group like the Black Panthers or Weather Underground from proclaiming itself a “religion”?
I lived in the Middle East, surrounded by mosques and the unrelenting five daily calls to prayer. Do we really want the American landscape, from coast to coast, to be dotted with mosques, minnarets, and the 5 daily wailings that essentially purport “convert or die”? Once they cover America as fully as your typical Holiday Inns, they will be impossible to remove.


38 posted on 08/14/2010 2:15:29 PM PDT by 1951Boomer
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To: DrC

This is the same person who, in a gathering of the elite in the Bay Area, ridiculed American commoners as bitter people who cling to God and guns.

He knows we are all ignorant and too simple to understand what is best for us.


39 posted on 08/14/2010 5:48:33 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: Sub-Driver
No, Mr. President

More like "HELL NO, YOU UN-AMERICAN SCHMUCK!"

40 posted on 08/14/2010 5:52:15 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama is urinating on the graves of 3000 murdered Americans, and laughing about it.)
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