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To: Windflier

I hope you’re right. Obama is still at 45% avg. He was at 47 in both the WSJ and a Pew Poll.

I remember back in 94 when people were celebrating Clinton’s demise. He was finished. A laughingstock.

How can you say he’s fallen faster than any other President when Obama is above where Reagan was at a similar point in his 1st term? Many in the fall of 82 thought Reagan was not long for the job.

And that’s with all the recent bad economic news. Even a month or two of adding even 100,000-200,000 jobs and he’ll back above 50. He’s almost as low as he can get among whites and he’s at 90% among blacks even though black unemployment is at 16% and the highest its been since the 30s.

Again, W was in the 30s from 2006 on. Carter was in the 30s most of 1980, as was Bush 41 in 1992. That’s real unpopularity. Being at 47 in the two recent polls is not an emergency.

And he hasn’t even unleashed the Billion+ re-election war chest that he’s building up. The media hasn’t even really started to do their part yet.

As I said, I hope you’re right and maybe a huge GOP win in the fall will change things and a new CW will emerge. I’d love to be wrong. I just don’t want to get too far ahead.


269 posted on 08/13/2010 11:27:04 PM PDT by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25
How can you say he’s fallen faster than any other President when Obama is above where Reagan was at a similar point in his 1st term?

Did Reagan start off with a 76% approval rating, like Obama did? I don't think so. Obama fell further because he started out higher, from what I've read.

I didn't make up the "falling faster, farther" thing myself. I've seen it posted here many times, with figures to back it up. Maybe someone will post it again.

Friend, you keep crunching numbers and reading them like some sort of tea leaves. You're missing the larger point, and that is, Obama is unlike anyone who's ever held the presidency. He is NOT one of us. He has NO uniquely American narrative, and does not show any indications whatsoever that he has a cellular level connection to the soul of this country and its people.

Every single thing he does, and every statement he makes, shows clearly that he holds Americans and America in disdain. His default positions on every issue, and every subject are alien to average Americans.

No American president has ever behaved in this way, nor has any American president ever come out so frequently, and so strongly in favor of things that the majority of Americans oppose.

An incumbent president CAN NOT be re-elected with a performance record like that, and Obama shows no signs of changing his disturbing, off-putting narrative.

You've really got to get your head out of the scientific puzzle of numbers and come up for air. Look around. Listen to what people are saying. Observe carefully to get a sense of how people really feel about Obama. It's uniformly down, everywhere you look, including among rank and file Democrats.

Obama has already lost his mojo. It's gone, and he won't get it back. It was phony to begin with, so it can't be rebuilt now. No one, including his own supporters will believe him if he tries. Basically, he's been outed by his terrible performance in just the first year and a half. There's just no way to recapture what he once had. It's just gone.

Again - he's not even at the halfway point of his term. He's got nowhere to go but down from here, because there's no way for him to recover any of the support he's lost. The only way he could do that would be for him to make an honest course correction to the political center, but he's far too radical to do that. He's incapable of being anything other than what he is, which is a committed Marxist.

His party will not nominate him to a second term, because by 2012 he will have brought them nothing but near-complete political destruction.

278 posted on 08/14/2010 12:11:02 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jeltz25

I don’t think people had the loathing, and the hatred that is building inside for this man. Carter was a loser, the left hated Bush and probably REagan... but they led us, and won our respect, both sides of the aisle.

This bas*ard...does not have my respect, never has...He should be feared.

THe Israelis know this. Thank God that Netanyehu is PM. I wish he were our president. He is now the most important man in this world...He is the only person who will fight IRAN. I pray that he doesn’t tip off OBAMA as to when he plans to do this...


298 posted on 08/14/2010 4:16:59 AM PDT by nikos1121 (Parying today for a new house and senate that is conservative)
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