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Obama Backs Mosque Near Ground Zero
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Posted on 08/13/2010 5:54:30 PM PDT by fabrizio

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To: RummyChick
Of course, everyone in the “non-secret” society always tells the truth on their brother citizen, whether they are allied with them or not. You know, the “little people” are pure of heart and motivation in all things. They would never lie to protect an associate! Masons, in paranoid ramblings, are by virtue of their oath, to be suspected of vast control over society. Disregarding other groups and their oaths:
Omerta
Code Duello
Hibernians
Sinn Fein Sons of Italy
Knights of Columbus
Rotary International
KGB/modern revision
CIA
FBI
Jacksonian Democrats IWW Let's put it this way— if you want to believe in a vast Masonic conspiracy that's fine. It's right up there with anti-Catholic bigotry,Clinton's secret pact with aliens,motherships,and any number of other constructs which keep people warm at night. The big bad world doesn't owe us a thing. Radical Islam, the Cordoba Mosque and the p-resent-dent, on the other hand has cogent proveable, factual links as a threat to the free world, and Constitutional outcomes we CAN affect.
501 posted on 08/16/2010 5:50:08 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Fishtalk

Scarborough was bobbing cause he was looking for a line of white powder to do. Underlying financing of PMSNBC and their
“stars”. There was a reason Scarborough quit office- and lots of people know it.


502 posted on 08/16/2010 6:48:01 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: FlyingEagle

The question really wasn’t about whether Freemasons would accept a Muslim. It’s whether Muslims would allow it. Research shows that Muslims wouldn’t allow it.

I am not so sure you can get to the higher level and say you believe in Jesus Christ. The witness story was an interesting one.


503 posted on 08/16/2010 7:47:57 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: John S Mosby

Interesting that you keep trying to downplay what really goes on in the higher levels of Freemasonry.

There is plenty of evidence FROM FORMER HIGH LEVEL MASONS..but you don’t want to address that, eh?

But here is something really interesting..
George Washington..one of our Founding Fathers...believed in the Illumnati. Oh yes, he was convinced of it and that it has reached American Shores.

“It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am.

“The idea that I meant to convey, was, that I did not believe that the Lodges of Free Masons in this Country had, as Societies, endeavoured to propagate the diabolical tenets of the first, or pernicious principles of the latter (if they are susceptible of seperation). That Individuals of them may have done it, or that the founder, or instrument employed to found, the Democratic Societies in the United States, may have had these objects; and actually had a seperation of the People from their Government in view, is too evident to be questioned”

He EMPHASIZED the word THIS in “this country” and the word “LODGES”

So, has it advanced it’s tentacles since then? The more you try to deny the possiblity..when even George Washington believed in them..the more you are suspect.

I saw where Washington left the Freemasonry in the later part of his life. Don’t know if it is true.

Who are the forces behind the scenes? I don’t know. I don’t rule out that they are Freemasons. Not peon Freemasons. POWERFUL Freemasons. You know...like the Rothschilds ..who have had a profound effect on things that have gone on in the World.


504 posted on 08/16/2010 8:12:17 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: fabrizio
I go on my mayors facebook page and post a response to his topic about how Obama is not right allowing the mosque to be built. i throw in facts and they call me inflammatory...I HATE LIBERALS!! they squeal when they know they have no facts.
505 posted on 08/16/2010 3:14:05 PM PDT by ozzsmith
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To: RummyChick

How on earth do you know what “really goes on in the higher levels of Freemasonry”, and I’m not downplaying-simply asking sane reasonable logic. Why would any of this be important, except to support a pre-conceived conclusion? Former High level Masons provide proof obamao is a Mason? Preposterous. “Suspect”? It’s NOT a secret organization. I think it is more than a little obsessive compulsive to string disparate bits and pieces into a “conspiracy theory” speculation. Your talent for this is wasted on an activist blog, and belongs on the grocery store news rack. Facts are sticky commodities. It is quite unhealthy to continually jump to conclusion on the basis of suspect sources and data. Very sorry you have hijacked a previously informative thread which can (or could) have tangible response stirring our Constitutional duty as citizens to defend the country against usurpers, and substituted an absurd series of queries and needless waste of energy. Rothschilds? We are in the 21st century. Liver toxicity is a potential explanation, unless you are living up to your nametag and the resultant worth of any such inspired rambling. Deo Vindice; you need to.


506 posted on 08/16/2010 3:39:15 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Snickering Hound

obviously photoshopped


507 posted on 08/16/2010 4:33:39 PM PDT by Roma Unleashed (Let go and let God.)
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To: fabrizio

It’s the first amendment! It has protected me (a Christian)for years. Making sure that I can worship Him without interference. It is a double edged sword.


508 posted on 08/16/2010 4:33:43 PM PDT by Roma Unleashed (Let go and let God.)
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To: John S Mosby

Hey John, the Illuminati are real...even a founding Father ..believed in them. It is absurd to disregard the possibility that Obama is being controlled by more than just Soros . There could very well be a group of powerful people controlling the situation.

And given that Freemasons believe that you should LIE to protect your brothers..it is relevant - especially since a Freemason picture was front and center in a staged historical photo op where no press photos were allowed.

The thought that Obama can’t possibly be a Mason because of his values is also thrown out the window since Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are reported to be Masons by the organization itself.

But go on trying to deny.
I noticed two real Masons disappeared when I brought up the perjury question.

Oh, and as to the Rothschilds...if they can be a powerhouse and a manipulating world wide Mason..so can people in the 21st century.


509 posted on 08/19/2010 6:04:07 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Well, well.... it’s the JUUUUUWs! Here’s something for you to chew on in your personal conspiracy hell- and well sourced also. The conspiracy theory claims that the Illuminati and Rothschilds are linked were refined with the advent of the National Socialists in Germany who developed anti-semitic propaganda saying the Rothschild family influenced wars between countries. Wars devalue the price of bonds by the increased risk that a debt holding country would lose and fail to make interest payments. By the time the Nazis were spewing this, WWI had come and gone and the old European royal states disintegrated. Point of fact is that war stood to make the Rothschilds lose money on the bonds they held.
“Could very well be a group of powerful people..” There IS a group. They are quite well identified and they aren’t just Soros. So here goes: obamao is a confirmed marxist, who was raised as, and is a muslim, who lies about his christianity (because taqquiya allows it). It is well defined in several liberal “bible” tracts that islam is extremely useful to world wide marxism. More modern muslims are well aware of how islamoterrorism is being used to advance marxist goals. obamao is being run by a fairly identifiable group of neo marxists who came out of the Harvard milieu through the Chicago democratic machine of Richard Daley. Wealthy marxists who have put their money behind the political green left, the carbon market created by Goldman Sachs (headed up by Al Gore)— that is to say, put their money behind SURE politically engineered guaranteed outcomes- or so they thought. His admin is salted liberally with Goldman Sachs people, as was Bush (sadly). The perpetuation of Keynesian economics (exactly as was done by FDR) is pushing the country to economic destruction.
Marxism is merely a different (red) shade of national socialism, with extreme elements of state controlled industry (fascism by definition). A fascism of the Left. So when people entertain notions of an Illuminati or the Masons, or the much reduced Rothschilds... then one is repeating the hysteria exhibited by the Seattle punk anti-Iraq war street marxists and supports central tenets of these very marxists. This view is one that is shared by obamaoists, and certainly not conservatives who love our republican form of government. If you share/entertain these views then you are in agreement with obamao, and you are in no way “discovering” who is behind him. There is no mystery who is behind him, and it becoming patently obvious to a lazy fat, tv laden middle america that is finally awakening. It is sheer lunacy to try to link this with Freemasonry in some needless energy wasting intricate conspiracy. There is much open source proof of who these people are and who this idiot is. True conservatives know this and are working to change it for generations hopefully.


510 posted on 08/20/2010 8:55:03 AM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby

I can’t read your diatribes . You don’t know how to do paragraphs and it is an endless parade of Drivel.

I didn’t say the Rothschilds were Illuminati. I said they were Freemasons. Many believe they were Illuminati.

They may have been members of the Illuminati.

But what is clear..is the world wide manipulations occurred by the powerbroker family...who were Freemasons.

Point being, Freemasons could very well be behind Obama. I refuse to discount the importance of that painting of a Freemason that Masons consider the Architect of America... being put front and center during a private swearing in that would be of historical importance...with the only photo taken by a White House approved photographer and a photo approved by Obama.

Discount it all you want.
I don’t care.

I believe that at the highest levels Masons believe in perjury.
I believe they believe in lying to Non-Masons.

And like George Washington I believe the Illuminati are very real.

Now continue on with your diatribes..I can’t bear to read the unending paragraphs...

The more people try to claim that Obama can’t possibly be a FreeMason ..the more I think he is or the people behind his thrown are Freemasons.. And if Al Sharpton can be Freemason ..so can Obama.


511 posted on 08/20/2010 4:09:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Roma Unleashed

1st Amdt has nothing to do with this. It doesn’t protect the unexisting right to build Islamist monuments to Jihad wherever you want. Nobody is saying they can’t build the umpteenth mosque in NY City, but people are reacting to a blatant provocation that should be unthinkable if only we had decent leaders.

Besides, why is every liberal authority so bent on securing this alleged “right” for Jihadists right on the venue of a national tragedy where there was no mosque prior to 9/11 but the same authorities are not allowing the rebuilding of a Christian church that was destroyed in the attack? Because they hate Crhistianity and the enemy of their enemy is their ally, that’s why.

The promoters are vile jihadists who support terrorism, which is why liberals like them. Hamas sponsors it. “Cordoba” is the name of the first important Spanish city conquered by Mohammmedans in Spain in VIII century, where they built the biggest mosque on Earth (beside that of Samarrah) in place of the Catholic church they destroyed. Cordoba is also the name of the Caliphate whose memory is so venerated among Islamists, who btw plan to establish a world caliphate, as Osama Bin Laden has proclaimed so many times.

This project is an insult to the entire western civilization and a sacrilege in the face of 3000 innocent victims.

1st amdt my a**


512 posted on 08/22/2010 9:21:52 AM PDT by fabrizio (Restore the Republic!)
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To: RummyChick

I edited and paragraphed everything for you:

Well, well.... it’s the JUUUUUWs! Here’s something for you to chew on in your personal conspiracy hell- and well sourced also:

The conspiracy theory claims that the Illuminati and Rothschilds are linked were refined with the advent of the National Socialists in Germany who developed anti-semitic propaganda saying the Rothschild family influenced wars between countries,namely WWI.

Wars devalue the price of bonds (the Rothschilds formerly main business) by the increased risk that a debt holding country would lose a war and fail to make interest payments. By the time the Nazis were spewing this BS, WWI had come and gone and the old European royal states had all disintegrated. Point of fact is that war stood to make the Rothschilds lose money on the bonds they held.

Your quote: “Could very well be a group of powerful people..” There IS a group. They are quite well identified and they aren’t just Soros.

Obamao is a confirmed marxist, who was raised as, and is a muslim, who lies about his christianity (because taqiyya allows it). Taqiyya is the islamic principle of lying.

It is well defined in several liberal “bible” tracts (revolutionary handbooks) that islam is extremely useful to world wide marxism. More modern muslims are well aware of how islamo-terrorism is being used to advance marxist goals.

Obamao is being run by a fairly identifiable group of neo marxists who came out of the Harvard milieu through the Chicago democratic machine of Richard Daley. These are wealthy marxists who have put their money behind the political green left, the environmental movement and financial manipulation to destroy US industry in the form of the carbon market. This market was created by Goldman Sachs (and championed by Al Gore). They have put their money behind SURE, politically engineered and guaranteed outcomes. His admin is salted liberally with Goldman Sachs people, as was Bush (sadly).

The perpetuation of Keynesian economics (the idea that higher govt. spending will spur economic activity),exactly as was done by FDR, is pushing the country to economic destruction.Obama is intentionally doing this because the people behind him and he himself want to set up the new statist dictatorship with no Constitution in the way.

Marxism is merely a different (red) shade of national socialism, with extreme elements of state controlled industry (fascism by definition). A fascism of the Left.

When people entertain notions of a linkage between Illuminati, the Masons, and the much reduced Rothschilds, they are in complete agreement with nazi propaganda, and in agreement with the statist national socialists of the obama admin. This view is one that is shared by obamaoists, and certainly not conservatives who love our republican form of government.

If you share/entertain these views then you are in agreement with obamao, and you are in no way “discovering” who is behind him. There is no mystery who is behind him.

It is sheer lunacy to try to link this with Freemasonry in some needless energy wasting intricate conspiracy on the basis of ludicrous threads of “evidence”, like a portrait of a famous architect like Latrobe. There is much open source proof of who these people are and who this idiot is. True conservatives know this and are working to change it for generations to come.

I can’t address further these paroxysms of hysteria-laden
conspiracy theories, other than to posit that a reliable source of this line of thought is the completely nuts Lyndon LaRouche, now out of prison for mail fraud.

Deo Vindice- With God as our Vindicator.


513 posted on 08/24/2010 7:12:12 PM PDT by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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