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Southern Jews and the Confederacy
Jewish Press ^ | Jul 28 2010 | Lewis Regenstein

Posted on 08/04/2010 5:34:10 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: rockrr
“Invaded”?! Don’t be a moron.

Can't stay away,can you?

41 posted on 08/04/2010 7:49:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: MNJohnnie; SJackson; ml/nj; Alouette; ExTexasRedhead; Eleutheria5; sheik yerbouty; MeanWestTexan; ..
It should be noted that Grant as President apparently made amends for that infamous order and enjoyed good relations with the American Jewish community in general.

Lincoln is to be greatly admired for rescinding that order after being alerted to it by representatives of Jews directly impacted by it.

42 posted on 08/04/2010 7:49:51 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: central_va
Can't stay away,can you?

I go where I please and I'm certainly not dissuaded or discouraged by a wretch like you

43 posted on 08/04/2010 7:52:18 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: MNJohnnie

What a load of crap. It’s evidence of the guilt that the North still bears for the war crimes inflicted upon the Southern population by the Yankee aggressors that prompts this kind of a response.


44 posted on 08/04/2010 7:54:35 AM PDT by pgkdan (When the same man...holds the sword and the purse, there is an end of liberty: George Mason)
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To: Amos the Prophet

If a state cecedes while restoring the Constitution to how the framers intended it, I will move there.


45 posted on 08/04/2010 7:55:45 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: justiceseeker93
Though my own ancestors were Southern Unionists, I'm glad to see an article that corrects the bizarre notion that the Confederacy was a sort of proto-Nazi Germany.

Unfortunately, history being what it is, it seems one can't defend the South without slamming the Republican party, which is also wrongly accused of anti-Semitism.

PS: There was plenty of anti-Semitism in the North, but Lincoln was not an anti-Semite.

46 posted on 08/04/2010 7:58:09 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Re'eh, 'Anokhi noten lifneykhem hayom berakhah uqelalah.)
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To: rockrr
I go where I please and I'm certainly not dissuaded or discouraged by a wretch like you

I am pointing out your invasion, not protesting it. You are not that important to even care about. Self flattery seems to be a Yankee trait. Legends in your own mind.

47 posted on 08/04/2010 7:58:33 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; SJackson; MNJohnnie; ml/nj; ExTexasRedhead; Alouette; All
I don't get the idea that the author of the posted piece is accusing Lincoln of being an antisemite.

He accuses Sherman of antisemitism, which is the first I've ever heard of. He does not give any specific facts to show it, however. I can understand someone of his background calling Sherman a lot of names.

48 posted on 08/04/2010 8:07:57 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: central_va

“Fear is the beginning of wisdom”

King Solomon, King David and G-d.

“The fear of the L-RD is the beginning of wisdom.”

It’s in Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Proverbs, Psalms in various forms about 100 times.


49 posted on 08/04/2010 8:09:43 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: pgkdan
war crimes inflicted upon the Southern population

Crushing the enemy is not a war crime. Ask the Japanese.

50 posted on 08/04/2010 8:10:58 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: Vigilanteman

” They went out of their way to slaughter, pillage and destroy everything in their path from Atlanta to the sea, a scale of destruction unmatched since the Thirty Year’s War, some two centuries earlier.”

They also won the war. Something to remember.


51 posted on 08/04/2010 8:14:14 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: VanDeKoik
[slavery] disgraceful even by 19th century standards

You have been deluded by your upbringing which portrays slavery as the worst of all human conditions and uses it then as a justification for the destruction visited upon the southern States.

I reproduce below for you a post of mine from this past April ...

I have an advantage over you that I have a lot of books on my shelf, and I've actually read some of them. William Lloyd Garrison notwithstanding, the abolitionist movement appears to me to have been a sideshow in the years leading up to the War between the States. I suggest you have a look at Perkin's compilation Northern Editorials on Secession. This is a two volume set running to over 1000 pages. The editorials are divided into 27 categories. Altogether 495 editorials are reproduced. 17 of these are categorized as concerning "The Morality of Slavery." In a quick scan I just did, it seems the vast majority defended slavery. Here's an example:

At the risk of being charged with assuming the unthankful character of apologists for slavery, we insist here that the system should be honestly and intelligently judged; that it should be credited with all that belongs to it of humanity, generosity, justice and other noble virtues. He who asserts that none of these belongs to slavery in any degree knows not of what he affirms; or wilfully falsifies the records of daily life. And let us add that ignorance on this point, considering the magnitude of the question involved, is hardly less criminal than deliberate falsehood. [Excerpt from "Justice Applied to Slavery" from the Providence Evening Press, characterized by Perkins as politically "Independent," October 25, 1860]
Remember these are NORTHERN editorials. In the sample that Perkins picked as representative, fewer than four percent concerned the morality of slavery and most of those largely editorialized positively about it. Go to a library and check it out, or pick up a copy via bookfinder.com. (These books appear to be out of print.) It is Volume One that includes the Morality of Slavery editorials.

ML/NJ

52 posted on 08/04/2010 8:17:19 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Jewbacca

Also uttered by WT Sherman. The Human Torch.


53 posted on 08/04/2010 8:19:29 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: justiceseeker93
He accuses Sherman of antisemitism, which is the first I've ever heard of. He does not give any specific facts to show it, however. I can understand someone of his background calling Sherman a lot of names.

Sherman may have been an anti-Semite, though I am unfamiliar of any instances. But it's certainly possible. Wasn't it Sherman who (ironically despite his middle name) said "the only good Indian is a dead Indian?" And he was certainly a racist who had no use for Blacks. After becoming the most hated man in the South (with the possible exception of Benjamin F. Butler) the truce he offered Joe Johnston was so lenient it would have allowed them to keep their slaves. Lincoln and Grant had to intervene.

54 posted on 08/04/2010 8:19:50 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Re'eh, 'Anokhi noten lifneykhem hayom berakhah uqelalah.)
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To: frithguild
Ask the Japanese.

During a potential CW II, should the South remember that as it stomps across the rust-belt?

55 posted on 08/04/2010 8:21:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
If we have CW II, what will be the heathen Yankee liberal excuse for invasion, rape and pillage? Slavery is gone, what will it be then? I leave that question for some Yankee scum to answer.....


We got lots of "so-called" issues: Health Care, immigration, Cap n Trade,Racism and even the Internet. The invading hordes will not be Yankees but millions of "undocumented" In deed if not in fact CWII is being fought right now, I am waiting for the real shooting to start.

56 posted on 08/04/2010 8:23:01 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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To: central_va

Ok


57 posted on 08/04/2010 8:23:48 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: ml/nj
War between the States

Curious term. I don't understand what you are talking about.

58 posted on 08/04/2010 8:30:00 AM PDT by frithguild (Joe Wilson was wrong when he shouted "You lie!" Obama doesn't just lie - he lies all the time.)
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To: frithguild
Curious term. I don't understand what you are talking about.

The Civil War, it was in all the papers at the time.

59 posted on 08/04/2010 8:32:48 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Nat Turner

Thank you neighbor!

I doubt that your reason will penetrate poor ol cva’s fevered brain, but there are plenty of us who do understand who our true enemies are. And should the shooting start it would behoove us to know with whom we share the foxhole. Is it someone who shares your values of is it someone who views the world through a cracked 145-year old prism?


60 posted on 08/04/2010 8:35:47 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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