Posted on 07/27/2010 11:25:06 AM PDT by topher
Tuesday July 27, 2010Study: Homosexuality Linked with Childhood Trauma
By James Tillman "People who either identify themselves as homosexual or bisexual, or have had a same-sex encounter or relationship, tend to come from more disturbed backgrounds," said Research Associate Professor Elisabeth Wells. "I suspect there might be some gay and lesbian people who will be indignant, but it is not my intention to anger them," she said. "You could say that if someone was sexually abused as a child, chooses to live as a homosexual and lives life well, then that is not a bad thing. But if they are living a homosexual life and regretting it, that is another matter." Of females who self-identified as homosexual, more than 40% had been married and had children, whereas 13% of male homosexuals had done so. Over 80% of those who identified as bisexual were women. The association between child abuse and later homosexual identification is not young. One 1992 study found that 37% of homosexual and bisexual men attending sexually transmitted disease clinics had been encouraged or forced to have sexual contact before age 19 with an older or more powerful partner. The median age of first contact was 10 years old. |
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>>Your take on these two mounting behaviors? <<
That animals are so stupid they will hump anything.
>>One would have to be an animal to know for sure (or at least be inside their heads).<<
If one humanizes animals, one can conclude that they have emotions and the ability to chose a sexual partner.
I’m above the animals.
And the reference is back in my Psych book from the seventies.
When I find it, I’ll put it up.
We can't prove that murderers weren't born to murder, either. Should we consider the actions of a murderer to be genetically-caused?
I am aware that the 10 percent claim goes back to Alfred Kinseys 1948 book Sexual Behavior in the Human Male, in which it is stated that "10 percent of the males are more or less exclusively homosexual for at least three years between the ages of 16 and 55." On the same page, however, Kinsey states that "4 percent of the white males are exclusively homosexual throughout their lives after adolescence." For political reasons, gay rights activists prefer to quote the 10 percent over the 4 percent statistic.
Kinsey's numbers are, moreover, certainly inflated because many of his respondants were recruited from the incarcerated propulation or were oteherwise self-selected, not randomized. (E.g. they overrepresented people in prison, where situational homosexual behavior is much more common than in the average community, and overrepresented the types of people who like talking about sex.)
A more recent 1990 survey of more than 10,000 persons by the National Center for Health Statistics indicates that homosexuals and bisexuals combined amount to about 1.5 percent of the population. (Link)
I knew a man who had come out of the homosexual lifestyle and counseled those wanting to leave (both male and female). He said his own experience and the universal condition of those whom he counseled was a broken relationship with their father.
Lots of different reasons, not always the father's fault, sometimes broken only on the offspring's side. But, according to him, a broken relationship with the father was always there and always needed healing.
I think you are full of it.
You are full of crap.
Sorry for the duplicate post.
It says they started off with about 13,000 people surveyed between 2003 and 2006. 98% of the participants in the study identified themselves as heterosexual. It also doesn't mention having any "results in mind before the study was started." It would surprise me if they were not asked a whole lot of survey questions, and these particular correlations were found to be statistically significant.
But possibly you have read the study itself, and not just this very brief press report? I'm interested. Do you have a link?
My criticism of the conclusions were in comparison to my real-world experiences which significantly differ with their extrapolated results. I am not pro-homosexual or anti-homosexual. I don't have a dog in the fight until my rights are tread upon.
Much too general a statement to bear significance (some animals mate for life--swans, for example). And animals most certain choose sexual partners...just think of all the odd mating rituals males of many species go through to win a sexual partner.
Whether animals have "emotions" (depending on how the term "emotion" is defined) is completely independent of how human may or may not think of animals.
And as to emotions, your 1970's psych book has been profoundly outdated by more recent work that relates emotional sensation and thought to brain chemistry and electrical activity which is measurable by MRI and PET scans.
And BTW I know some humans (many actually) who are definitely NOT above animals. Funny thing that...they are all Liberals.
That’s NUTS!
There was stress as well throughout history so that argument is not persuasive.
The interesting fact that suggests nurturing is that the children of openly homosexual parents are 7 times more likely to become homosexual themselves. Adopted children, not linked by blood, mimic their parents. It is therefore chosen behavior but children don’t have the ability to make a choice - they are forced into it.
"Children of openly homosexual parents" is a 20th century artifact. How do you explain the other 8000 years?
Because the children are 7 times more likely to be homosexual than the contemporary population - that is the evidence. We have no data on 8000 years, but we have data now and I know it is difficult to accept but the proof is crystal clear.
Kinsey's methods were scientifically disgraceful and have been thoroughly debunked. I'm sure you've seen Judith Reisman's takedown of his methodology.
From what's in this article, Wells is just noting statistically significant correlations from a survey of 13,000 people whose participation was not influenced by suggestion, recruitment, reward, or pressure on Wells' part. Absent evidence that this researcher, Elisabeth Wells, is a Kinseyesque fraud, your conclusion lacks much persuasive force.
ROFL Yep!
People, on the other hand, are more intelligent
and should be able to recognize appropriate behavior for their sex... and species.
There are a lot of generalizations in this abstract. I started to do the analysis for you but I have better things to do. Remember I don't have a dog in this fight and I win nothing by convincing even one person. Even if that person is me.
OK. That’s all right. I just thought you might have some info. If you have some in the future, please ping me, I’d appreciate it.
>>People, on the other hand, are more intelligent
and should be able to recognize appropriate behavior for their sex... and species. <<
I fully agree with you!
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