Do you keep a gun in the house? When the 26-year-old Summerfield woman refused to answer, the Ocala doctor finished her child's examination and told her she had 30 days to find a new pediatrician and that she wasn't welcome at Children's Health of Ocala anymore.Another good reason all moms should carry a handgun.
I believe this is part of the new healthcare reform. I remember reading about this when the law first passed.
This has been an issue for years. Here are some earlier threads on the subject.
Pediatricians asking parents if they own a gun (2003)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/909747/posts
Keep Quiet or Walk Out - by Rabbi R. Mermelstein (2004)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172683/posts
Doc, what’s up with snooping? (Pediatricians turning kids into snitches) (2007)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1906717/posts?
First, there’s no reason for a 13 year old to be questioned privately by a pediatrician, as in this article. A parent should have been present.
About 10 years ago, the gun question came up during a pediatrician visit. I’d already been alerted to the issue from FR.
I told the doc that I didn’t think he was qualified by training or experience to advise us on firearms safety, and unless he could convince me otherwise (which he couldn’t, didn’t even try to do), that I saw the question as a professional boundary violation, which is a very serious thing.
He got a little huffy and told me it wasn’t, but he dropped the whole thing pretty much immediately.
There’s a nice questionnaire on this topic that the Second Amendment Sisters used to have. I can’t find it now, I’ll email them and ask about it. It’s a great thing to hand to your doctor if he asks this question. Many do it unthinkingly, simply because the American Academy of Pediatrics tells them to.
To expand on what I asked, ask your pediatrician if he is formally trained to offer househouse safety advice regarding firearms, swimming pools, trampolines, and the like, and does his liability coverage cover such advice? Further ask if the information is needed to treat any medical issues with your child, and if not, why is the question not a professional boundary violation?
Bringing up the issues of professional liability and boundaries ought to get a physician’s attention in a serious way.
Just a foreshadowing of the Neo-progressive utopia we will all experience when Obama and his national socialist minions get going with Obamacare.
The Pediatricians Association is behind this, but behind *them* was the CDC in Atlanta. Here is what happened.
During the first part of the first Clinton administration, the CDC were told to start compiling gun statistics, with an eye to associating gun control with public health. But after the Republican sweep of congress, the Republicans told the CDC to cut that crap out.
In total, at first the CDC spent $2.5M to show that guns were bad. But then, they spent $400k, and got the honest statistics, and concluded that there was no evidence that gun control reduced gun crime. Then the CDC announced it was no longer going to conduct such studies.
However, the Pediatricians Associations took over for them, and started issuing “guidelines” to its members about interrogating parents about their gun ownership. This is their statement of 2000.
http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;105/4/888
The last visit to the dr’s office they asked me. I lied of course and said no and made a remark about it really not being anyone’s buisness.
It's none of his damned business, and she SHOULD get another doctor for her child.
Mark
I was shocked, shocked I tell you.
My wife and I do have the Illinois F.O.I.D. and that info is readily available. That does not mean that we own guns, only that Illinois, in its wisdom, allows us to if we want to.
We still cannot conceal carry in this retarded blue state, no ordinary law abiding citizen is allowed that right.
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None of your business. next question.
you have 30 days to find another dr.
I only need 30 minutes to replace a jack ass like you
The doctor is doing her a favor. He’s showing her what an idiot politically-correct doctor she has and to go find another one before the child actually has a medical problem.
No, I believe that I've lost count. The total is closer to 30 and most are stored with easy access to magazines or speed loaders.
Regards,
GtG
Cripes, are they still doing this?
Where are these doctors getting training on how to advise people on keeping guns in the house with children, anyway?
So far my kids’ pediatrician hasn’t asked this question. She’s a litle bit snoopy, so I’m surprised it hasn’t come up.
She’s lucky to discover the fascist charater of this “doctor” now before she has to deal with a serious health problem and he decides it is best for society (or his pocket book) for him to kill her kid.
Having dealt with doctors for a long time in business, as human beings, some are meglomaniacs and are not worth the dirt on your shoe. When you sniff them out - run in the other direction. Sometimes no health care is better than hate and death care.
Well, I don’t see kids or teens anymore (due to their obnoxious parents, mostly), but I see many adults in my practice (psychiatry) who not only enjoy talking to me about their new-found or life long gun hobbies, but one woman and two men in law enforcement whom I know carry concealed to their appointments. I never bring it up, or register either pleasure or displeasure over the topic, but they just seem to feel comfortable bringing it up on their own. They can probably sense I’m not the sort to react negatively to it.
Having said that, a doctor may terminate with any patient at any time for any reason he or she wants, and is not obliged to tell the patient the reason - and it is usually not wise to do so. There is a standard way to do this to cover emergencies and such until the patient has had a chance to get care elsewhere, and there are also routine procedures to protect oneself legally. Of course, it is everyone’s right to try to make the doctor’s life miserable by filing a complaint with the state medical board, but I’ve never heard of one being successful when the termination was done the usual way.
Most complaints about doctors, as far as I can tell, are so lacking in merit that they never rise to the level where the doctor is even notified by the board that a complaint was filed.
Two have resulted in actual investigations against me and were untimately dismissed. To let you know how frivolous they can be: one involved a Hispanic career felon under my care serving a 25 year sentence on a forensic unit (after he played the system to spend his time there rather than in prison), who coldcocked me - causing substantial facial and eye injuries - as I was coming around the corner to the nurses station while on call one night. He then decided the best legal defense was an offense: he hired the local Hispanic patient advocate to help plead his case that the Anglo doctor had dissed him.
The other was a woman who made her living as a foster parent, who illegally and irresponsibly gave her children away to a friend across state as she was about to kill herself, and who, after being forced into the hospital under my care, tried then to use her connections at the Department of Health and Social Services to vaguely disparage my professional conduct in order to undermine my professional opinion about her mental state, since it would preclude her from ever being a foster mom again.
Of course, I had no recourse but to hire attorneys and rebut the allegations - not hard to do since they had no merit, but at enormous expense and emotional drain to me, and resulting in incidents I must submit proof about to authorities forever after in my practice. Another reason I’m gradually going Galt.
So you all go ahead and file those complaints to the state medical board over mere differences of opinion and a doctor’s right to refuse service to anyone except in an emergency. Heck, we won’t even need ObamaCare to further the ongoing doctor shortage.
It probably shouldn't have proceeded far enough for THEM to be the ones to decide she was no longer their patient. Besides, if they're not going to do business with her anymore, whether it takes her 30 minutes or 3 years to find a new health care contractor is none of their affair. Unless they were saying they'd continue to treat her family for 30 days and after that she was on her own.
I’d ask the the doc if he would be willing to post a sign saying “this is a gun-free house” on his front lawn. But then again I bet this quack lives in a gated community, you know how anally-retentive the little Napoleons in those homeowner associations can get.