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Family and pediatrician tangle over gun question
Ocala.com ^ | Saturday, July 24, 2010 | Fred Hiers

Posted on 07/25/2010 6:20:15 PM PDT by Suck My AR-16

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To: mathurine

Not only pediatricians but any doctor. Unfortunately, this is juat the beginning of data collection to find out who has guns and they in turn the government will find some that are unregistered.


101 posted on 07/25/2010 8:02:09 PM PDT by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
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To: Apple Blossom
I understand the “child safety” side of the issue the pediatricians’ office is trying to address,

I'm slow, explain it to me.

102 posted on 07/25/2010 8:03:47 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10 v 19)
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To: dpwiener
There are no grounds, legal or moral, to sue the doctor. Just find another doctor (which is what this family is doing)... But ultimately he has a right to conduct his medical practice as he wishes, and to reject patients if he wishes. Likewise, patients have a right to reject him for his intrusive questions.

In a purely free market that might be true. But it isn't true in the situation we are in today. First off, the medical profession has been granted a special legal status due to state licensing requirements, and as a part of that status has subjected its members to a host of regulations. One of them limits the nature of communication between doctors and patients. You'll see plenty of discussion on this thread of professional boundary violations, which are a basis for legal action and discipline by state medical regulators. Politically oriented questions about gun ownership portrayed as some kind of child safety concern are a good example of a potential professional boundary violation.

Patients and their parents clearly have a right to control the information they provide to the outside world as well. There is no requirement in general to disclose information about non relevant topics to a physician. Moreover, disclosing that you keep firearms at your home to a stranger can increase the risk of a burglary or home invasion. So I think discretion is a good idea.

Property and casualty insurance companies have begun to ask the same questions, and both they and the physicians force you to agree to data sharing of what would otherwise be private information as a condition of providing service. In the case of physicians that data will be available to the government shortly under the new health care reform act. I think the insurance companies are free to sell that data now to whoever wants it.

103 posted on 07/25/2010 8:03:51 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Suck My AR-16
My daughter went to this doctor (Chris Okonkwo) once . . . hated him and never went back.


104 posted on 07/25/2010 8:06:09 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Suck My AR-16; Irisshlass; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ..
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105 posted on 07/25/2010 8:07:41 PM PDT by narses ( 'Prefer nothing to the love of Christ.')
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To: Suck My AR-16
Do you keep a gun in the house?

None of your business. next question.

you have 30 days to find another dr.

I only need 30 minutes to replace a jack ass like you

106 posted on 07/25/2010 8:10:20 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: narses

They ask the kids. My friend who is employed by the federal govt, an one heck of a great guy, well his kid got the question from the pediatician. She answered “of course, who doesn’t”. She’s one cool 7 year old.


107 posted on 07/25/2010 8:12:53 PM PDT by NeoCaveman ("There is no more money. Period. We are BROKE." - Lurker 5/21/10)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I’m just the messenger, FRiends.

No, you're not JUST the messenger...you're also the Neighbor of the Beast.

108 posted on 07/25/2010 8:14:02 PM PDT by genetic homophobe (Do we vote for a pro American globalist or a anti American globalist?)
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To: gracie1
Speaking as a nurse I can say that ER nurses are being directed by Joint Commission to assess for domestic violence. When I do an admission assessment, I am required to assess for signs of abuse.

30 years ago my wife and I had foster children. One day at the park our 3 year old foster daughter walked in front of another child who was swinging. She got "kicked" in the mouth, she was bleeding profusely and I took her to the E.R.

She had bitten her tongue from the accident. The E.R. people wanted to question this child without me being present and I understood that but the problem was that every time I left her presence she did nothing but scream at the top of her little lungs, I'd come back by her side and hold her and she was ok, leave again and the non stop screaming started.

They never did get to question her without me being present. They finally gave up and accepted my explanation of what happened.

109 posted on 07/25/2010 8:16:03 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (A feast is made for laughter, and wine maketh merry: but money answereth all things. Eccl 10 v 19)
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To: Suck My AR-16

The doctor is doing her a favor. He’s showing her what an idiot politically-correct doctor she has and to go find another one before the child actually has a medical problem.


110 posted on 07/25/2010 8:20:40 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: Suck My AR-16
Do you keep "a" (as in single) gun in the house?

No, I believe that I've lost count. The total is closer to 30 and most are stored with easy access to magazines or speed loaders.

Regards,
GtG

111 posted on 07/25/2010 8:23:26 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Suck My AR-16

Cripes, are they still doing this?

Where are these doctors getting training on how to advise people on keeping guns in the house with children, anyway?


112 posted on 07/25/2010 8:31:52 PM PDT by dbwz (DISSENT IS PATRIOTIC)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

If you have a child under the age of 10, said child is more likely to die as a result of drowning in a 5 gallon bucket rather than as a result of a gun.


113 posted on 07/25/2010 8:35:53 PM PDT by chae (A wooden stake for Edward, a silver axe for Jacob, and then Buffy went home)
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To: chae

Outlaw DHMO!

www.dhmo.org.


114 posted on 07/25/2010 8:36:41 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Suck My AR-16

So far my kids’ pediatrician hasn’t asked this question. She’s a litle bit snoopy, so I’m surprised it hasn’t come up.


115 posted on 07/25/2010 8:36:44 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: chae

Amen to that! I could never bring myself, no matter how hot it gets in in Cali, to put a pool in. It’s not like a gun that you can have control over, train your kids to properly respect. Anyone can hop over your fence, and you can be liable for anything that happens. Plus kids will be kids, and they can drown in seconds. In my early teens a family member lost a toddler in a wading pool. It left an impression on me.


116 posted on 07/25/2010 8:49:03 PM PDT by gracie1 (visualize whirled peas)
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To: dbwz

My leftist sisters house was broken into by armed felons while she was in the house.

You’d be amazed how quickly a new jersey mom could turn from a leftist to an ar-15 armed tea party member. Oh yeah, she was leftist all the way (an outcast in my family!).

She’s now staying at my house all the time to get range time, and can shoot more 12ga skeet in a weekend than I can take!


117 posted on 07/25/2010 8:49:24 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: porter_knorr

I’m getting to that point. After our last child gets her five year shots this fall, I think we are done with the doctor visits for awhile. I had all her well baby visits done and an annual physical each year. If your kid is healthy, then it really is a waste of time and money. My oldest does Boy Scouts and they require a physical for summer camps so we made need to continue for him—either that or just go to a walk in clinic and gets a “sports” physical.


118 posted on 07/25/2010 8:50:33 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Travis T. OJustice

So the old saying is true...


119 posted on 07/25/2010 8:51:48 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray

LOL :)


120 posted on 07/25/2010 8:52:13 PM PDT by beaversmom
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