Posted on 07/24/2010 3:47:23 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
Calories make you fat. Doesn’t matter where get them. If you consume more than you burn, you’ll get fat. It’s just that simple.--Melas, June 17, 2010
I assume you won't be drinking alcoholic beverages on November 6, 2012, since they're full of empty calories.
The 2008 field was weak both in terms of personalities and in terms of principles. Fred was the best of a bad lot.
Newt? Give me a break. He has been clobbered in debates by John French Kerry and Mario Cuomo. He can’t convincingly argue for what he himself does not believe. Newt hasn’t won a debate since he was debating ALONE at midnight in the well of House on CSPAN.
Palin would be the class of the field in nearly any year. 2008 was a weak year. 2012 may be even weaker, with retread Romney and Huck, and Gingrich thrown in with Pawlenty the nonentity. I have invited any on this board to suggest a credible alternative and a plausible way that that person would defeat her. So far...nothing.
In any event, it is dawning on even the most gravely afflicted of the PDS-sufferers that Sarah Palin is going to seize the nomination in 2012. The stars are in alignment for her. She is the right candidate for the right time and is presented with the right opponent. There is no one, or nativeo combination, who can stop her.
Again, it's either stay in office and be ruined financially and politically, or step aside and fight the enemies on your terms. Which route would you have chosen?
Either she is tough enough to take the heat and do her job or she’s not.
Look, it's not about being "tough". It's about representing the people and protecting her state. You have to retreat and regroup sometimes. She lost a battle but she sure as Hell isn't going to lose the war. That's what happened here.
You believe voters would have preferred her to step aside.
Yes. Alaskans neither cared for Sarah's popularity nor their state being under a microscope after she was selected VP. They just wanted to be left alone. It was clear that Sarah had crossed into rock-star status and was too big for her britches in Alaska. So she had to be destroyed, she saw that and let someone else run the state so she can fight back against her enemies.
Had she defeated a few of these ethics probes, they would have subsided.
She defeated ALL but one of them, whereas that one was the equivalent of pleading no-contest, but the bogus charges just kept coming. State law provided no recourse for her, and she had no help from the legislature. Sarah had to fight all of these charges on her own, USING HER OWN TIME AND MONEY.
However, you assume she would have been clinging to power, broke, gasping for air. Why such desperation? Even the moonbats give up after a while.
That's exactly what would have happened had she stayed in office. She would have been financially and politically destroyed, and I'm sure the people "outraged" that she quit would've set up a fund (oh wait, that very fund was illegal too) and still supported her for POTUS. Not.
But no, she quit. I don’t think quitting is an option at the presidential level.
President and Governor are two separate things. There are not going to be moonbats filing ethics charges against her if she's President.
she has done more for the country since resigning AK than virtually any other private individual. By any logical analysis, how does all this make her a quitter? people have resigned jobs to run for president many times. Isnt that in fact what she did, but of course she cant announce till Jan 2011.
I am an SP supporter and I will not do those things you just said. No candidate is perfect and I do not agree with SP 100%, but I do trust her to be for working people and I believe she understands what business needs to thrive and I believe she will fight like crazy for working people. I believe Newt has lots of good positions but I worry that he will sell out to the Ruling Class. Ditto for others usualy mentioned. Try to get Pence or DeMint to run. I am an SP supporter but lets see debates, lets see their pasts vetted etc. Even as an SP supporter, I want healthy debates and I will vote for the R nominee. It’s possible I could even change my mind inthe R primary.
Some SP supporters may seem sensitive but they and the candidate have very abused first by MSM and now by some fellow conservatives. What I would like to hear from Newt supporters , is how can we trust him? Newt may have better depth of knowledge, be a better debater, BUT CAN WE TRUST HIM to fight for working people? The same man who curled up with nancy and said we had to vote for dede? Ditto for Mitt! What does it matter how superficially good he is if at his core he will sell out to Ruling Class??? I TRUST SARAH PALIN to fight for working people.
“I mentioned a few earlier. I think Jindal’s star is rising again”
Sorry. I have nothing against the other three. Demint is the best. Ryan would be second.
But Jindal does not belong on the list. His response to the oil spill has been weak and slow. The Administration has rolled right over him. Just last week, the federal government told the state and locals that the barges that the local Parish President had deployed to block the surge (which would have pushed oil in) from the tropical storm from entering Lake Pontchartrain would have to be removed for environmental reasons. Jindal’s response was to protest, but acquiesce. The local Parish President told the feds that if anyone tried to move the barges he would have the sheriff’s deputies arrest them. The feds backed down. That is precisely the kind of leadership you would never get from Bobby Jindal. Jindal=Mitt Romney (without the spine) LOL
I still think Palin is head and shoulders above the field, although I know you take another view. But Jindal does not belong on the list of alternatives you compiled. I do not think you would be pleased with what you got.
“Having watched election politics carefully since we got our first TV in 1952, I can say confidently that she will be the best president we have had in my lifetime.”
That pretty much sums up my estimation of her.
Because she quit her job.
Enough said.
Where in the world did that come from? Because his handle commemorates a battle that (a) is still taught at West Point and the Armor/Cavalry school at Ft. Knox; and (b)that so intrigued Erwin Rommel that the Desert Fox himself visited the battlefield?
And since you quoted the Declaration, a question: Do you suppose its author was an egalatarian on racial issues?
If I were putting together an administration, I’d want people who could check their ego at the door. Something Newt Gingrich is incapable of doing, imo. We have a country full of good people outside of the “power structure”. It’s time for some new blood, new thinking in Washington.
Did he? How do you know?
you assume she would have lost the inescapable ethics trial...which in itself is troubling. Either she didn’t have anything to hide (and in prevailing would have shown up the left) or she chose to step aside, “choosing her battles”. I think the state would defend her, not her personal finances.
You don’t think the moonbattery will intensify at the presidential level? Look at how our side went after Hillary (Rose Law Firm, Whitewater). Not saying it wasn’t justified, but if they had some goods on her as governor, they would step up the fight if she made it into the whitehouse.
For me, its not that she quit that (again, FOR ME) makes her less desirable as our next president...its that she hasn’t demonstrated the skills of an executive.
I am a CEO of my own business. I have about 100 employees. And I am learning first hand, that as your company grows, the leader needs certain abilities to continue to be competitive, inspire employees, and win customers. Namely, I have to have a keen ability to analyze situations and be decisive as the volume and velocity of decision points increases. That means I have to think on my feet, and be able to form a quick position (in some cases less than one minute). I also have to have an awareness of our financial position at all times. I need to make on the spot judgements whether to pay someone more, concede a discount on a customer, and other cost benefit analyses. I also need to be an articulate public speaker. Whether speaking to a customer group of 20 people, our 100 person employee group, or 1000 at a tradeshow, at this level, I need to come across as a smooth speaker. No verbal pauses, an ability to make my viewpoints concise and articulate. I was not born with these skills, I have to work on them, and the importance of those skills is gradually overtaking the technical competence I have amassed in my field. So, I see this progression of skills in my own career, and I want to see this in a candidate I support. You hear about the litmus test for leadership: started a business, made a payroll, etc...I know first hand what kind of tempering to your leadership mettle those sleepless nights worrying about whether you’re making the necessary moves to make that payroll. It makes a difference.
Getting shredded by Couric and Gibson are leading indicators that for whatever reason, the experience she does have has not forced the development of those skills I outlined above. I can’t think of a Governor that would have been less prepared for that kind of interview. Nothing that followed since she’s been on the national stage has convinced me otherwise.
I agree with her policies, I just think with the depth of knowledge she shows in her arguments, she sounds like any other Republican out there - my neighbors, my coworkers, etc. That’s not enough for me, and I question whether that’s enough to win the office and govern fairly.
Having said that, I recognize she has the guts to come forward and get up on the podium. I like that, I appreciate that, and that does make her stand out. But standing at the mike and repeating what we all know and read does not make HER a leader. That makes her a mouthpiece. I don’t know who is out there that would make the best leader for the Republicans today, but we’re in dire need.
We’re living through the consequences of electing an inexperienced leader, and we can’t make that mistake again.
Sarah Palin “has no power”
Pick up your phone and call Nikki Haley, Saxby Chambliss and a cast of others. They will tell you how powerfull Sarah Palin is.
Actually I think that Ron Paul could be described as an interesting personality who is not qualified to be president.
Who knows, you may be right.
I suppose time will sort a lot of htis out. Have a nice day.
Was she the first or only person to rally to those causes? NO. She was just one of many talking about those races. Why would you credit her with having a significant role there?
She also endorsed Hoffman in NY23, which was a gutsy move since it went against the GOP establishment, but only after there was a movement afoot in the blogosphere. (see comments about no original thoughts). I am painfully aware she also supports McCain for AZ Senate (grrrr)...and in other cases she supports the GOP. How hard is that? You want to give her credit for supporting the straight ticket?Gutsy? Who would vote for a candidate BECAUSE Sarah endorsed them? I don’t think many Republicans would say that’s the reason they’re supporting a candidate, and NO Independents would cite Sarah’s endorsement as the tipping point.
If her endorsement came with some sort of insightful views on why that candidate was qualified or strategic to achieve a larger goal, then OK, but nope. Her thoughts on Facebook and Twitter are very small talking points and not very insightful. I don’t mean to refudiate your case, but you will have to try harder.
AGreed for the most part. I don’t trust Newt and don’t think he can be elected. I like Pence and some of the other names but I will listen too. Whatever, I will vote for the nominee in any case and will fight like hell to get anyone in the WH other than Obama. I like Barbour but think he is hurt by being southern and white and fat. Don’t like that but it is reality.
Sarah will rise or fall in debates. She has to move beyond using slogans and rah rah to be elected. We have to see if she can do that.
Frankly I like Sarah doing what she is doing and think it gives her a freedom and license to attack attack attack. Politics and electoral politicws has a way of neutering most candidates. WE saw what being on the ticket with McCain did to her, the things she had to do to “get along”. I think most presidents have to do the same thing.
I just hate to see the infighting and paranoia among conservatives. It doesn’t help us at all and it does help the democrats. We cannot let victory be snatched by defeat and that will happen if all this discourse I see on this site continue.
Nikki Haley was dead in the water before Sarah Palin endorsed her. She was going nowhere.
You can deny this amazing woman her due all you want. That will not change reality.
You’re right, but the corollary is also true. You can support her all you want and it won’t change reality.
As CajunGirl just said, whoever the nominee is, I will support. I am not militantly opposed to Palin, just saying she’s not the best I have seen nor has she demonstrated leadership qualities to me.
I am more than ready to be proven wrong...I hope you would echo the same sentiment.
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