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H.R. 5741:To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform natio
govtrack.us ^ | July 15, 2010 | Rep. Charles Rangel

Posted on 07/22/2010 7:02:22 AM PDT by Heartlander2

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To: rhombus
It's a draft, but I think everyone is missing the point.

IMHO, the point is that Obama, Rangel, and most of the Dems are interested in having as large a government as possible. They can only create so many new agencies, and those can only employ a limited number of people. So, in an effort to grow the government and INCREASE people's dependence on the Federal government, they want to “employ” those between 18 and 42 in order to cement their power and ensure the continuation of the Democrat ruling class. To quote George Bernard Shaw, “the government who robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.”

That, or I'm just delusional.

61 posted on 07/22/2010 7:44:37 AM PDT by the lone haranguer (All civilized men love peace, but all truly civilized men must despise pacifism.)
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To: Gaffer

Methinks a lot of “patriotic” Americans would become “snipers” overnight.


62 posted on 07/22/2010 7:44:43 AM PDT by rickb308 (Muslims need to check with Native Americans & ask how that whole cowboys & indians thing worked out.)
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To: Heartlander2

This. Is. Slavery.


63 posted on 07/22/2010 7:44:50 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Heartlander2; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; F15Eagle; fieldmarshaldj; 2ndDivisionVet; jesseam; ...
Rangel's been at this "bring back the (active) draft" movement for years. Why? Seems that the tipoff came back in 1991 the moment the first American attack in the Persian Gulf War was launched. Rangel lamented that the war would be fought by an all volunteer military that had a larger percentage of blacks (and perhaps Hispanics) than the general population. In other words, representing his predominantly black district, he was playing racial politics rather than focusing on how to best assure optimal performance by the military in the conflict that lay ahead.

Rest assured that Rangel wants the restoration of the active draft now for similar reasons. The military has made no request for it, so the grandstanding Rangel is seizing the opportunity for himself. What he really wants, consistent with his bean counting mentality, is a larger percentage of whites - and a smaller percentage of minorities - in a military he doesn't have much regard for anyway.

64 posted on 07/22/2010 7:47:56 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: org.whodat

Good try, but no dice. And i didn’t say all. But if someone had of refused, yes, they would have probably been imprisoned or killed. Imprisoned in America or at dockside in england,,,shot dead for refusing to leave a landing craft.

And the point, is exactly WHO gets to decide. A draft is slavery,, whether you like it or not. The government refuses to pay what the free market would easily demand for a man to risk his life,,, and so demands that he do it for a pittance, under pain of prison.

A draft is *nothing more* than the government’s refusal to pay underwater welder wages to the men in those landing craft.


65 posted on 07/22/2010 7:48:29 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: dfwgator
It's basically the SS, as opposed to the Wehrmacht.

Pretty much. The Military swears an oath to uphold the Constitution.

The NATional Civilian Community Corps (The NAT C's) will swear an oath of personal fealty to Obama.

66 posted on 07/22/2010 7:48:45 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: April Lexington

Think of all the free labor for the ruling fat cats to use at will. (I hope they use plenty of them to polish up the public restrooms.) lol


67 posted on 07/22/2010 7:49:00 AM PDT by Dem Guard
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To: the lone haranguer

Yeah, it’s their standard modus operandi and I’m sure people could get “service” credit by serving in Acorn too.


68 posted on 07/22/2010 7:50:45 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Heartlander2

Forcing people to serve is slavery.

I guess Rangel is all for that now.


69 posted on 07/22/2010 7:51:26 AM PDT by dforest
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To: omega4179

Refuse to serve, and they pull your obamacare out from under you. You die sooner and they take your estate for your debt to their brave new society. And they harvest your organs too.
Next!


70 posted on 07/22/2010 7:53:11 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Grumpybutt

This is the creation of the civilan security forced just as well funded as the military and selected for ideological purity and fealty to the president to be able to successfully run a coupe de tat


71 posted on 07/22/2010 7:54:07 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Democrats...the party of Slavery, Segregation, Sodomy, and Sedition)
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To: DesertRhino
That was found by the same progressive court in the Wilson Administration that also made it illegal to distribute anti-WWI handbills.

Ah yes. How did the court describe that again? Shouting "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, wasn't it?

What is one supposed to do if the theater really is on fire???

72 posted on 07/22/2010 7:55:19 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 544 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Wolfie
it’ll never pass

That's what they said about obamacare. Everything we thought would never pass is passing.

And America is passing.

Face it; fight; or fold.

73 posted on 07/22/2010 7:56:22 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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To: Dem Guard

And ill be for a draft when it includes EVERYBOBY’S paycheck. No banker, government contractor, or government worker of any kind should make a dime more than an E-5. That should stay in force as long as a soldier serves against their will.

Or is it only soldiers that must listen to the Sousa tunes and rally to the flag?


74 posted on 07/22/2010 7:56:22 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: silverleaf
A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

It's coming.

75 posted on 07/22/2010 7:56:22 AM PDT by Hoffer Rand (There ARE two Americas: "God's children" and the tax payers)
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To: Heartlander2

Last night on the military channel, they had on “Hitlers Bogyguard”.

Hmmm.....


76 posted on 07/22/2010 7:57:55 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

“Refuse to serve, and they pull your obamacare out from under you.”

Exactly, you nailed it. This generation has no idea how much power they have given up to this man.


77 posted on 07/22/2010 7:58:09 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Heartlander2
Examination- Every person subject to induction under this title shall, before induction, be physically and mentally examined and shall be classified as to fitness to perform national service.

ORLY?

78 posted on 07/22/2010 7:58:35 AM PDT by Excellence ("A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it.")
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To: DesertRhino

BS


79 posted on 07/22/2010 8:00:21 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: NEW YORKCITYGOPMAN

http://www.faulknerforcongress.com/


80 posted on 07/22/2010 8:00:34 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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