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1 posted on 07/21/2010 4:35:22 AM PDT by Kaslin
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But if today's illegals are not eligible for welfare, less likely to commit crimes and eager to work, why are people in the border states so ticked off?

Illegals undercut the 18-24 workforce, and they get benefits. Just walk into any emergency room. Using false ID they get welfare etc. Stossel is an idiot. Writes like a 10th grader too.

2 posted on 07/21/2010 4:41:36 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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99% Of the problem is Mexico. Shut THAT down, and the rest of it becomes manageable.


3 posted on 07/21/2010 4:41:54 AM PDT by wendy1946
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But they do get welfare benefits - either by crossing the border to have their “anchor babies” or by i.d. fraud or by just showing up at any e.r. demanding services because our laws say no one gets turned away then not paying the bill.


8 posted on 07/21/2010 4:53:35 AM PDT by Grumpybutt (Back off! I'm Grumpy (love that car window sticker!) LOL)
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I used to be a Libertarian. But I got better.


9 posted on 07/21/2010 4:54:02 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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Free trade is a recipe for US strategic decline. If the world operates free trade then my first sentence is wrong. But the world does not. They operate to preserve their own tech advantage and jobs. Ala Japan, EU and China. To charge into the world with free trade is like the Brits during the American Revolution who refuses to shoot enemy officers with sharpshooters and prefer to fight like men in the open against an adversary who would shoot the British officers and fire from cover at the redcoats lined up in parade formations on the open field. Free traders go to the manufacturing centers of the US and see your empty factories as monuments to such foolishness and the offshoring of IT jobs to China and India, and the transfer of American high tech inventions overseas in order to pad more profits thru cheap manufacturing costs and with it tech transfers to China and India. To add pain to injury the same free trading freepers decry that China somehow got technology to upgrade their military. Guess whose trade philosophy gave them the knowledge to do that??!!!


10 posted on 07/21/2010 4:56:36 AM PDT by Fee
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The article is rambling and incoherent. What is never explain is how we keep the poor immigrants and their children from sucking up tax dollars, while paying little in taxes,then getting a vote to Democrat for more. If they all paid the upper tax bracket like the (’rich’) people democrats demonize, that would be one thing. But our legal immigration does the opposite now, brings in the families and puts them on some sort of welfare.


12 posted on 07/21/2010 5:26:33 AM PDT by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is the federal spending=tax delayed")
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Legal immigration = good
Illegal immigration = bad

Any questions?

Why have borders if you aren’t going to defend them? Should Mexicans be able to flow in to this country, as they wish, simply because of their location?


13 posted on 07/21/2010 5:28:26 AM PDT by edge10 (Obama lied, babies died!)
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I get kind of tired of folks making this a black or white .. err, red or blue issue.

There are more positive things to say about immigrants than there are negative. There are few good things to say about illegal aliens.

Fact is, we need the workers to some degree, but not in the current numbers nor in the way they are making it here.

Illegals have done a lot of serious damage and are costing us some serious money... all with practically zero return. Almost all of the money is pumped into the Mexican economy and minimal amounts are spent here in the US... no more than they absolutely have to.

There IS a compromise to be had and we are going to have to get there. It's surely not right down he middle either.

By far, these are good folks who have been taught that US immigration rules are nothing more than a technicality.. a game to be played. They are ENCOURAGED to sneak into the US and send their money back home. A lot of these people are eating dirt back home so I can't hardly blame them to taking advantage of the weak US position.. it's a low to moderate risk venture for them and they payoff is huge on their scale.

When I was a kid, a huge farmer in our area employed mexicans during the summer here in Indiana, hundreds of them. He had housing for them and everything. They had their own villages and their own social enforcement. They were very good people, very clean and very hard working. If one got out of line and caused any sort of trouble in the area, the were gone the next day, never to return. They did a lot of good for the area and we actually had a lot of respect for them.

That was 30 and 40 years ago. Today, they are empowered by the left to fight our system and rape it for everything they can. They don't leave in the winter, they stay here and clean out the church food pantrys, they sell drugs and burglarize homes and businesses. The local community is screaming loudly about the invasion and nothing is being done.

One could say that's what we get for allowing them in the first place. But, it can also be said that a controlled guest worker program can be managed and it can work in a positive manner. I've personally seen it work before if managed well.

14 posted on 07/21/2010 6:06:17 AM PDT by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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"The case for open borders is a case for letting the law of supply and demand, the free market, determine the level of immigration," Riley said.

What an idiot. He lacks the common sense to realize that living on the streets in America is preferable to anything available to hundreds of millions of people around the world. The immigration level would not be determined by supply and demand, or the free market, but by individual comparisons of the extreme poverty in many parts of the world to the 'poverty' in America. Many more millions would opt for America if they could, and it'd be a long, long time before any supply and demand situation stopped the flow.

15 posted on 07/21/2010 7:11:19 AM PDT by Will88
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