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How the Police Kidnapped Me, Stole My Car and then Mugged Me, All Within 24 Hours.

Posted on 07/15/2010 3:16:44 PM PDT by FoxPro

This how the cops in a certain county, in Arizona make a little extra pocket change (a lot of change). And the unintended consequences of DUI laws.

This is the long version, no exact locations or names are revealed. You might want to quickly make note of my user-name and make a copy of this, because it might get pulled.

I was living in Las Vegas. My beloved aunt and uncle live in Phoenix, Arizona. My aunt Mary has terminal cancer, so I decided to basically drive down one Saturday morning and say goodbye. So many wonderful memories because of her.

Well, after a nice lunch, and an unstated, but emotional farewell, I headed back North. It was around 4 in the afternoon when I hit an Arizona county southern border. At the time, of course, I was not aware of the significance of this, that I would figure out later.

I was, admittedly going a little fast, maybe 5 miles over the speed limit. Not really probable cause for stopping me. And then it happened, and it happens to all of us at some point in our lives, seeing the flashing police car lights in the rear view mirror. I pulled over, and was a bit nervous. They didn't radar gun me. So they were just pulling me over out of boredom, I assumed. Or just to flex some muscle. There is these 2 young cops with guns, out here on this lonely stretch of dessert highway. I gave them my license, registration and proof of insurance. They told me to step out of the car, which I thought was kind of odd. One of them told me he was going to write me a warning, and began doing so. The other one stood about 10 feet away staring at me. The officer writing the warning asked me how I pronounced my name. I answered him.

Then, which in hind-site I figured out was, I believe, a carefully choreographed set of procedures began to unfold.

They asked me what I did for a living, and then who I worked for. I told him I was a computer programmer, and I work for a number of companies.

Officer Smith (not his real name), the one staring at me, suddenly said “Sir, how much have you had to drink today?” I looked up at him, and without missing a beat said “Nothing, why?” At this point the cop that is writing me the warning looked at officer Smith with a look of resignation, like it was time to do the whole drill again.

So officer Smith pulls out his little breathalyzer thing and I blow a flat out zero (don't believe me, I will fax you the police report). At that point I ask, “Well, can I go now?” No, Smith says, we are going to do some tests. He asks me to open my mouth, into which he shines a flashlight. And I am not going to go though the various DUI gymnastics of standing on one foot and counting and so forth. I actually thought I did pretty good, considering the past broken legs and my uncoordinated nature.

Well, when they put the cuffs on me, I was really surprised. At that point Officer Smith said “We need to do this to protect you and the other drivers on the road.” I said “You cant be serious, I am completely sober” I remember saying this about a dozen times, as they put me into the squad car and drove off. They said nothing to me for the next 45 minutes or so, it was a long drive to the jail. And I would later find out, this was by design.

Well, after my 24 hours in jail, trying not to touch or eat anything, I am arraigned and given some papers indicating where my car had been towed. Of course it is like 6 miles away, which I walk.

I walk into the impound lot, hand the girl my papers. She types some numbers into her computer, looks up at me, and says, quite matter of factly “That will be $600” At which I say, again, without missing a beat “You have got to be kidding.” You see the towing rates for DUI in Arizona are like $7 per mile. It is seen as part of the punishment. It is another fine. I hand her my credit card, I just want to get the heck out of here.

I follow the owner of the impound lot out to unlock the gate, and as he hands me my keys, he says to me “What do you think of my brother in-law/good friend/good buddy, Officer Smith?” I don't exactly remember what superlative he used in describing Officer Smith, I just remember it was a non-casual term of endearment. And then it immediately dawns on me. The police have just kidnapped me, held me against my will, stole my car, and then mugged me for $600! Ironically, the guy that opened the gate seemed a bit intoxicated himself.

I don't reply. I get into my car, and drive away, very carefully, back to Las Vegas.

Analysis:

This is what really happened.

1) The police hang out at the southern border of their jurisdiction in this county in Arizona, which will incur the highest possible towing fee, charged by the mile. 2) They wait for cars with single occupancy and out-of-state plates. 3) They stop cars and give some sort of lame excuse for stopping you like going a little fast, or following to close behind, really any number of things. 4) They need to profile you, to assess whether you are a good mark. They ask you to step out of the car, ask you about your career. They write a “warning” ticket to have time to decide whether you are a good extortion target. 5) If your car is to nice, or you say your a lawyer or retired cop they let you go. 6) If your a working stiff, like me, that has a car with missing hubcaps and some scrapes, and are a single white male from out of state, then you become a perfect candidate. 7) If your car is worth less than $600, in their judgement, they would probably let you go, because it isn't worth towing if you might refuse to pay a towing fee that is more than the cars worth. 8) It doesn't matter how you do on the DUI gymnastics tests, you didn't do them perfectly, so you are automatically considered impaired, in their judgement. 9) They call their buddies at the towing company, and inform them that they have another score for the day.

The calculation before all this happened goes like this:

Mother Against Drunk Drivers lobbies state politicians to raise the towing rates for DUI. It is part of the punishment, and is non-refundable, whether you are found guilty or not. It is a fine of suspicion. On the other hand, towing companies also lobby for per mile towing fees in states with wide expanses, like Arizona, because of fuel costs and wear-and-tear. The combination of these 2 can get towing fees into the $6 to $10 a mile range in the western states. This has the unintended consequence of creating a very lucrative extortion ring. The cops and the towing companies work with each other, every day. They eventually figure out that they are only making $40,000 or so, and that it would be very easy for the cops to be a little more strict over time, they could both benefit each other greatly. All they need is to have the cops tow more cars more frequently. In fact, there is so much money to be made, it almost becomes inevitable for this to happen. Double your income by being a strict cop. Protecting your community. The newspapers will print “Officer Smith made and outstanding 450 DUI arrests last year.” And officer Smith is lauded and celebrated, not only by the government, but at his church and the local VFW. Officer Smiths wife and kids are also happy with the brand new in-ground pool at there new $350,000 house he bought recently. Nobody seems to question were he got the money for this. He’s a cop, you know. Maybe he inherited some money from Grandpa or his wife is very proficient on Ebay. Officer Smith is “The Man”.

The calculation of the victim, after the fact, one month later:

This whole charade revolves around the fact that the cops, that do this, do not ever want to see you again. They don't want you to show up in court. They already have your $400 to $600. And the whole thing works out to make this happen. They don't take you drivers license. So you are all set in that respect. You check your local states DMV, and you notice that your drivers license hasn't, and probably will not be affected by this. There is absolutely no reason to show up and fight this. After you think about it for a while, and 2 months after the incident, you come to the conclusion that:

1) Why would I pay an attorney another $1500. 2) Risk being found guilty (he said vs he said) in front of a local jury, basically calling the local beloved cop a liar, and incurring another $1500 fine and jail time. 3) Am I really going to get up at 3 AM in Las Vegas, to appear in court at 8:30 AM on a Monday morning, to be subjected to points 1 and 2? Maybe spend a further $100 on a hotel room Sunday night, and wreck my weekend, for something I didn't do? Better yet if you live in Maine or Alaska. 4) You still have your license, and after 2 months, you have checked with your states DMV, and Arizona has not put you into the “Driver License Compact” (suspended license in all 50 states), and probably never will. So your not trying to get your drivers license back. 5) Why would you go back to a place where you know the cops are more than willing to throw you in jail and steal your money for no reason at all. What would happen if you won your little DUI case. After leaving the courthouse, would they follow you? Would they be pissed off you fought them, and potentially jeopardised or exposed their very lucrative extortion ring? Is there not a zillion places in the desert where they could bury your body? They are the cops, dont-cha-know.

Really, at this point, you just tuck it away as either a big mistake, or a con that it is, and that you cant do anything about, unless your a “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” type, and I am sure if the cops thought that you might be, when they were profiling you in the first place, they would not have arrested you.

So if your driving between Phoenix and Las Vegas and your a single guy, with out-of-state plates (and your at the very edge of the county), it may be your turn at reverse highway robbery. Because all they have to do is pull this off once a day, and twice on weekends, and it is nearly a quarter of a million dollars worth of extra income for these folks.

And it would be easy to identify the cops that are doing this:

1) They have an inordinately large number of DUI arrests 2) Most, if not all, happen at the furthest possible place from where the impound lot is. 3) They have an inordinate amount of out-of-state DUI arrests. 4) They are living beyond what you would expect their salary would dictate. 5) They have an inordinate amount of DUI court no-shows.

If you would like to know the name and location of the cop that did this to me:

1) You have to demonstrate that you have the ability to help make this stop (official, journalist, defence attorney). 2) You may not know my identity 3) You have to assure me that you are not part of this extortion

If you can do this, You may freepmail me your email address, and I will reply with a name (of the officer) and a location from an anonymous email address, created at a hotel, that I have never stayed at, from a computer in the business center, that I used once.

We have to stop this from happening to anyone else.

And officer Smith (not your real name), you know who you are. I am going to post this relentlessly, everywhere. I know who you are, and you don't know who I am. So I have the upper hand at this point. I am going to personally make sure, that what you are doing, stops. I wish you no ill will. I know the temptations are almost overwhelming. You and your buddies need to search your conscience and desist. You know this will eventually catch up with you. I will not stop until you do.

May God have mercy on both of us.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; donutwatch; mohave; rapeofliberty
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To: layman

If I were engaged in information warfare, and an adversary of the US, I would begin to place doubt of the credibility of legitimate authority in the US SW states, while developing a Latino/Mexican illegal immigrant 5th Column.

At the appropriate time and place, such as a natural catastrophe, I would then maneuver military forces as UN assistance, organize internal government aid programs to condemn facilities of US loyal citizens as being unsafe, while fostering those who sought more authority working for a newly created order.

There seems to be a steady attack upon the flanks of the US using similar tactics, and blaming it all on illegal drugs, but never really quantifying how such anarchy could be attributable to such an unstable industry.

Meanwhile a contagion of distrust in legitimate authority is brewing throughout the US. Some due to a lack of virtue and some simply due to evil and corruption.

This has only taken a couple of generations to develop, but will take about 4 generations to reverse, only if man first realizes the source of just, righteous, loving, grace is developed from within the human heart by what is provided by God, and not from without in a worldly thinking attempting to counterfeit what He provides by our independent thinking.


81 posted on 07/15/2010 11:31:54 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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82 posted on 07/16/2010 8:11:52 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: FoxPro

Your experience makes perfect sense from the standpoint of some bad cop with connections in the towing business.

A slightly different story was printed in the papers about a year ago: small Texas town, with Hispanics pulled over and shaken down. Figured the illegal ones wouldn’t dare complain.

With the sigma attached to drunk driving, no one wants to examine the fee structure and how it might be abused, thus enabling those who would twist a perfectly decent law for ill-gotten gains.

Which is really shameful and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Going to your local DOJ or FBI office sound like the best plan. It is a conspiracy to extort monies based on a false arrest. Just because there is a legal penalty for DUI offenses, deliberately charging a non-offender is really no different than a stick up!

Good luck.


83 posted on 07/16/2010 8:32:03 AM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: FreeStateYank
Your experience makes perfect sense from the standpoint of some bad cop with connections in the towing business.

With the amount of money that can be made, it becomes inevitable.

But I am not going to get involved, any more than I want a hole in my head. As soon as you get involved, your quality of life can be negatively effected in so many ways, in ways you would never expect. My only goal is to garner some notoriety to this situation, and do it anonymously. This was just a test run, and FR is a good place to do it. After this, I am going to put the cops name and location into the article, and start a general campaign of posting this on any and all websites that will have it. It will eventually be a light shined into a dark place.

At that point, something will have to be done. It is just a matter of time.

84 posted on 07/16/2010 9:13:33 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: Cvengr

This has nothing to do with to do with Arizona’s new immigration law.

In fact, I happened to be in a Wal-Mart at midnight last “Black Friday” (day after Thanksgiving) in Phoenix. I swear the place had 5000 people in it. And it seemed to me that I was the only person there with a European ancestry. And forget about ordering anything from the deli, if you don’t speak Spanish, it just wont work.

Something needs to be done.


85 posted on 07/16/2010 9:19:54 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: Deaf Smith
If you Fail To Appear, an arrest warrant will be issued and you are sunk forever.

An arrest warrant in Arizona?

Will, if I never go back to Arizona, it is about as important as a warm bucket of spit.

86 posted on 07/16/2010 9:24:11 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: FoxPro
Arrest Warrants are in national data bases...that is almost automatic.

Even failures to pay red-light & speed camera tickets are entered.

87 posted on 07/16/2010 9:38:54 AM PDT by Deaf Smith
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To: Deaf Smith

It really isn’t anything personal, but I don’t give a crap.

I stopped caring about all of that shit a long time ago.

If you actually end up caring about that stuff, and you have never hurt anyone or stolen anything, you just encourage them.

Go read Les Misérables.


88 posted on 07/16/2010 9:48:45 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: FoxPro
I already did. They dont care, or dont take it seriously.

If you're sending your story to 'media', you've got to shorten it...a whole lot; if it's more than four sentences, it's down the black hole.

89 posted on 07/16/2010 9:51:19 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: FoxPro

Stop drinking.


90 posted on 07/16/2010 9:56:12 AM PDT by verity (Obama, the bullshit and rhetoric President)
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To: FoxPro

The police once threw me off a 23 story building.


91 posted on 07/16/2010 9:58:37 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: verity
Stop drinking.

I don't.

Stop assuming.

92 posted on 07/16/2010 10:01:28 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: AppyPappy
The police once threw me off a 23 story building.

I believe you.

93 posted on 07/16/2010 10:02:34 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: ErnBatavia
if it's more than four sentences, it's down the black hole.

Yeah, and I am going to explain this in 4 sentences.

If that is the case, than it will never get published.

94 posted on 07/16/2010 10:04:50 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: FoxPro
"And the unintended consequences of DUI laws."

Unintended? Now that is funny. All of the current DUI laws are more about raising revenues and nothing more. IMHO

95 posted on 07/16/2010 10:05:41 AM PDT by WHBates
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To: FoxPro
Hmmm...Appears to me that this is simply an instance of "Cops Against FoxPro"...

Sort of the same problem that COBOL was going through during the mid-nineties...Of course, Y2K changed all that...

A couple of possible solutions: Switch from FoxPro to C++, or, only drive through AZ with a blow-up dummy like they use in the DC area on the HOV lanes.

96 posted on 07/16/2010 10:14:11 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: SuperLuminal

Actually, I am doing JavaScript right now.

The blowup doll is a really good idea!

That would have solved everything.

They never would have stopped me.


97 posted on 07/16/2010 10:18:59 AM PDT by FoxPro (Out side of a dog, books are mans best friend. Inside of a dog, it is to dark to read.)
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To: FoxPro

Welcome to my world.


98 posted on 07/16/2010 6:20:47 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Fundamentally Fair
You should send this to local media.

It is to laugh.

The local media everywhere is in bed with the MADD Moms and the DWI hysteria.

99 posted on 07/16/2010 6:23:04 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: farmguy
OK, this was zapped earlier today. What is the purpose of repeating it???

Probably because it is worth telling.

100 posted on 07/16/2010 6:25:15 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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