Posted on 07/14/2010 2:02:24 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA
COOPER CITY, Fla. -- Three men posing as FBI agents took off when the owner of a Cooper City home they were trying to rob shot at them, the Broward Sheriff's Office said.
Three men wearing baseball hats and T-shirts with the letters FBI on the back pulled a sport utility vehicle into the driveway of the home shortly after 4 a.m. Monday, Miami TV station WPLG reported.
Two of the men got out of the SUV, while the third acted as a lookout, police said. The two men tried to open the home's front door with a crowbar, but that didn't work, so they tried to get in through a front window, the Sheriff's Office said.
Homeowner Malcolm Pena, 35, saw what was happening and fired his .40-caliber pistol through a window at the men, police said.
The two robbers jumped into the SUV and drove away, police said.
No arrests have yet been made.
Well, you can be sure the real FBI will not like this story.
Well, I’ll agree they were trying to rob the house, but what makes you think they were FAKE FBI agents?
Obviously fakes. Real feds are PROFESSIONAL thieves!!!
The real FBI would have had better “dynamic entry” tools.
It is just a matter of time before we have a homeowner who thinks his state’s castle doctrine law gives him the right to use deadly force against an intruder who turns out to be a law enforcement agent who doesn’t identify himself as such as quickly as he should.
Real FBI agents would have either killed him or surrounded him for a hundred days and then burned his house down.
“It is just a matter of time before we have a homeowner who thinks his state’s castle doctrine law gives him the right to use deadly force against an intruder who turns out to be a law enforcement agent who doesn’t identify himself as such as quickly as he should.”
Well, then the law enforcemnt agent better identify himself better, if he doesn’t want to end up in a box. The risk is not on the homeowner if someone is breaking into his house without identifying themselves.
And his wife ,kids,and dogs.
So, what about burglars breaking into a house shouting “police”?
They’re identifying themselves as police, but they’re not.
I think the solution would be that no LEO is allowed to break into a house.
Then you’ll know. If they’re breaking into your house, they’re not police, FBI, etc.
It's more boring to have to do a stakeout and nab someone on the driveway, sidewalk or street.
Video of the whole thing is in the link. No one would mistake these fools for an actual FBI entry team.
Ringing the doorbell elicits a warm welcome.
Starting to break the door down elicits firing lots of somethings though the door that will penetrate steel. And other things.
Just ring the damned bell, if on legitimate business. That's easy and reasonable.
That would be like a Thermos bottle, it knows when to keep hot things hot and cold things cold.
Seriously however, this is worth saving and circulating to the real Agents and to the judges who issue Warrants. Executing Warrants should never be taken lightly and “no knock Warrants” need to be exceptionally rare. Every Warrant has serious potential for tragedy for everyone involved. It is an order, by a judge, to take away someone’s Fourth Amendment Right to be secure in his property.
Actually, you do have the right to shoot at the real police if they are breaking into your house unless they have authority to break into your house and are not exceeding their authority (proper warrant and reason to be using that type of force, etc.). In other words, the police do not just have a right to break into a home.
I’ve always thought that the criminals would start shouting police or acting as police as a means to get the jump on someone. Shouting police is not enough for the police to identify themselves. Any criminal can do that.
It happens now. The results during the incident are mixed, and the results in post-incident legal action vary too.
Yay!! - Shoot the impostors!
This is what is wrong about no knock warrants, etc.
If some bozos run into my house in the middle of the night, yelling “Police!” I’m supposed to just believe them?
But if they really are cops and I shoot, I could get capital murder.
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