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US Home-Buying Applications Sink to 13-Year Low (Obama Summer Recovery Continues!)
CNBC ^ | 07/14/2010 | Reuters

Posted on 07/14/2010 5:27:25 AM PDT by Rational Thought

Demand for loans to purchase U.S. homes sunk to a 13-year low last week, and refinancing demand also slid despite near record-low mortgage rates, the Mortgage Bankers Association said on Wednesday.

Requests for loans to buy homes dropped 3.1 percent in the week ended July 9, after adjusting for the Independence Day holiday, to the lowest level since December 1996, the industry group said.

Refinancing applications fell 2.9 percent, and the mortgage market index that reflects total loan demand also fell 2.9 percent.

Average 30-year mortgage rates edged up 0.01 percentage point to 4.69 percent, but were near the record low of 4.61 percent set in March 2009, based on MBA records dating back to 1990.

Rock-bottom borrowing costs are helping borrowers with pristine credit to buy and those who still have equity in their homes to refinance. But high unemployment and foreclosures remain major hurdles, and worries that prices could dip further are also keeping many potential buyers on the sidelines.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: economy; housing
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To: Rational Thought
“Rock-bottom borrowing costs are helping borrowers with pristine credit to buy and those who still have equity in their homes to refinance.”

I haven't seen either to be a big problem for my borrowers. I do see a lot of people who should be refinancing and just need to pick the phone up and haven't yet.
These are people that I can easily get approved.
I think people have been reading too many headlines, and just are afraid to even call.

21 posted on 07/14/2010 6:36:15 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

I had a friend tell me the same thing. Same situation, husband has been out of work for 2 years. I have a question for you...were your friends (like mine) white?


22 posted on 07/14/2010 6:50:15 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: HereInTheHeartland
I think people have been reading too many headlines, and just are afraid to even call.

My husband and I were considering buying a house for our son in the town where he attends college, and we called the company that did our refi last year (ugh!). Anyway, she said there were no more piggy-back loans being offered and that's what is getting people who are trying to buy. No one can afford the down payment. Here in Texas, at least, people are reluctant to refi because of the associated costs (Title fees are ridiculous). It takes a long time to recoup those costs and I'm at 4.99 now (in a 7 year ARM---thus the UGH). But it cost us $4,000 to do it. If we refi AGAIN, we are losing equity we can't afford to lose in this market. We hope to move before the ARM is up (kids will be out of college, we will be downsizing so they won't come home!), but there's no assurance the market will be back in 6 years, so we may be screwed.

23 posted on 07/14/2010 6:58:13 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: Moonman62

That is what I think is crazy. The $8000 tax credit for first time home buyers and the $6000 +/- tax credit for existing home owners ACTUALLY WORKED. It sold houses. So why not extend it ?
When you compare it to other parts of the stimulus package that were just wasted on stupid things that DID NOT stimulate the economy you have to wonder why the would not continue a program that actually was effective.
Keep in mind housing stimulates the economy much more than just selling the house. People also end up buying lots of other things for that new residence(flooring, window treatments, cabinets, lighting,landscaping, etc, etc). This is why housing starts and permits are watched so closely by economists. It is a huge part of the general economy.
The fact is TAX CREDITS always work. Plus you have to actually PAY TAXES to get the money back. That means it helps the middle class more than any other segment of the population. Appliances sold like crazy when there was a tax credit on them. Wood stove and pellet stove sales are up because of the 1/3 credit on them. Cash for clunkers sold a lot of cars. Maybe because these credits don’t really help the poor or rich is the reason they were not extended.


24 posted on 07/14/2010 7:00:38 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
I applied for a mortgage last week and also got denied. Pretty much because I'm self employed. My credit is perfect and I have the income.

They just aren't loaning.

25 posted on 07/14/2010 7:16:30 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: woodbutcher1963

Subsidizing housing is largely how we got into this mess. Yes, I get your point, it did work. I’m just saying it’s not the sustainable way to go.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 7:17:11 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Politicians exist to break windows so they may spend other people's money to fix them.)
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To: erkyl
I know Texas does things differently, but $4,000 seems like a lot.
You might want to check with the lender who holds your mortgage (if I am understanding that you originally went through a broker?).
If your loan is held by a major bank who has a local presence (Bank of America, Wells Fargo, etc); you could work with someone locally and maybe spend less to refinance with the current lender.
A lot of the refinances I do, are loans we hold and we can do them easier.
27 posted on 07/14/2010 7:18:18 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: xzins
13 year low EQUALS BEFORE George W. Bush

US Home-Buying Applications Haven't Been This Low Since Clinton Was in Office

So you know what that means . . . Bush's fault.

28 posted on 07/14/2010 7:20:57 AM PDT by Hoodat (.For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.)
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To: unixfox
Self employed borrowers are tough. We can only use income which makes it to the bottom line of the tax return.
Most self employed borrowers have good CPA’s, and the true income picture doesn't show on the 1040.

That's where the stated income programs worked well; but they were unfortunately abused.

29 posted on 07/14/2010 7:21:32 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: Rational Thought

My wife and I just bought an existing house three weeks ago. We’ve been very fortunate in that we sold a townhome we had lived in for 10 years and upgrade to a house we wouldn’t have bought if it hadn’t been for such a depressed market.

For people that can qualify, this is a great time but it’s not ideal by any means. I still don’t think we’ve seen the bottom yet but I don’t think we’re far off as I don’t see how rates can go much lower without the whole market failing. If that happens, unless your mortgage is paid in full, you’re screwed. ‘Fun’ times we live in now.....


30 posted on 07/14/2010 7:30:19 AM PDT by ATLDiver
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Texas requires a new title insurance policy every time you refinance (at around $1200 a pop), even if the house hasn’t changed hands (to check for mechanics liens, I guess). We paid points to buy down to our interest rate. $4,000 is a guess, but it’s about that much every time we’ve refinanced in TX and we’ve done it 3 times now. (on two houses) I shopped around, and it’s a racket here because of the title insurance mostly...and the points. Even on ‘no closing costs’ loans, you’re still out $3-4k in TX and because no advertised interest rate is ever what it says unless you pay points up front. And we have excellent credit.


31 posted on 07/14/2010 7:33:15 AM PDT by erkyl (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office --Aesop (~550 BC))
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To: erkyl

Interesting to know; that’s a lot of money for title work. I think I have done 2 loans in Texas since I have been doing this.
Title costs where I am at are about $150 for a refinance.


32 posted on 07/14/2010 7:36:22 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: woodbutcher1963
The fact is TAX CREDITS always work. Plus you have to actually PAY TAXES to get the money back.

Actually, these were refundable tax credits.

33 posted on 07/14/2010 7:39:57 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

I’m in Texas. I bought on a VA loan a little over a year ago at 5.25% fixed. I tried to refinance to get 4.5% but the new rules for VA Streamline Re-finance now is you have to have 10% equity. Having just bought there is no equity. Plus the closing costs would be around $6,000 on a $150,000 loan. To lower the payment $50 a month would cost be 10 years to get that $6,000 back.


34 posted on 07/14/2010 8:06:29 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( Democrat-Republican, whatever)
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To: Moonman62

The mess was created by forcing banks to give loans to people that could not afford to make the monthly payments.


35 posted on 07/14/2010 8:08:47 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Rational Thought

UNEXPECTED!


36 posted on 07/14/2010 8:10:42 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (I can see November from my house!)
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To: Terry Mross

Be happy with your 5.25 %. There are many of us who once had mortgages of with 10-15 % interest rates back in the 1970’s and 1980’s.

My first was 10.75 %.


37 posted on 07/14/2010 8:13:15 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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To: Terry Mross
“I tried to refinance to get 4.5% but the new rules for VA Streamline Re-finance now is you have to have 10% equity”

I pulled up our VA streamline guidelines and they do mention Texas specifically, but I see nothing saying 10% equity is needed.
They do have specific guidelines about cash out transactions( basically not allowed in Texas), (or even subordinating a 2nd lien which was cash out).

Out of curiosity I have emailed a underwriter about the question on needing 10% equity.

38 posted on 07/14/2010 8:24:49 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland ("And for that matter what do we REALLY know about HereInTheHeartland?")
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To: Rational Thought
Yeah, but just think how bad things would have been if Obama had not declared this summer to be Recovery Summer!.

Why, the Obama Economics Institute (OEI) just geometrically proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that without the declaration of Recovery Summer! the U.S. economy would be in a depression, rather than simple a recession. The OEI now scores the Obamunists as having prevented two depressions in a row, within a period of just 14 months, a new world record!

39 posted on 07/14/2010 8:48:41 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from the Right Stuff!)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Thanks, the loan officer is a good friend and she was shocked when the underwriter told her the VA streamline required a 90% LTV.


40 posted on 07/14/2010 9:55:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross ( Democrat-Republican, whatever)
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