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The Mosques of War
American Thinker ^ | July 13, 2010 | Victor Sharpe

Posted on 07/12/2010 11:58:48 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 07/12/2010 11:58:49 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

The Jew has no greater true friend than an evangelical Christians.

We vote for an support Israel more than Jews do it seems!

So I find this article rather puzzling.


2 posted on 07/13/2010 12:07:11 AM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: neverdem

Perhaps the most egregious and blatant example of Islamic triumphalism is the planned construction of a giant mosque in New York, almost upon the site of the horrific destruction of the Twin Towers by Moslem terrorists acting in the name of Allah.

The proposed mosque is to be opened in 2011 on the very anniversary of the September 11, 2001 atrocity — a flagrant insult to the memory of the thousands of innocents who died at the hands of Moslem fanatics and believers, most of them Saudis.

A MOSQUE MUST NOT BE PERMITTED TO BE BUILT ON THE SITE OF THE TWIN TOWERS. VOTE OUT BLOOMBERG AND EVERY IDIOT WHO IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN. CALL AND WRITE THE MAYOR’S OFFICE RELENTLESSLY.


3 posted on 07/13/2010 12:22:23 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Persevero

No distinction is made between biblical Christianity and popish Christianity. The latter purports to have the power to come up with ever new revelation, opening the door for abuses that are not countenanced in the New Testament text itself. (To be fair to the Roman church, the precipitating factor for the Inquisition and Crusades was not Jews but Muslims, although Jews got caught in the midst of the battle and were not always treated with the scriptural deference they deserved.)

A notable New Testament fact is that the Lord’s Day (commemorating the resurrection of Jesus) and the Jewish Sabbath were contemporaneously observed by Christians. The Jewish Sabbath fell into disuse in the Church as Jews pretty much abandoned the Christian church in the centuries after the Temple fell, and it became by default a gentile following. (Seventh-Day Adventists of today are well meaning but do not account correctly for the accommodation to the gentiles in Acts 15, believing that to be only a temporary accommodation.)


4 posted on 07/13/2010 12:25:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Persevero

The Christians did not leave Judaism. The Christians in Jerusalem were driven out of The Temple by the Jews. The Apostle Paul was driven out of synagogues by the Pharisees. The final break was when Simon bar Kochba massacred Christian Jews who would not accept him as their messiah in A.D. 135.


5 posted on 07/13/2010 12:27:30 AM PDT by Judges Gone Wild (Who are these uncircumcised to oppose the armies of the Living God?)
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To: Persevero
So I find this article rather puzzling.

Likewise.

I'd like the author to name one passage of scripture that incites murder of Jews. Before anyone convinces me that Christianity is to blame, I need this proof.

The Nazis hung a kind of cross over their door too. That didn't make them Christians. There are instances of this in the Koran; I've read them.

6 posted on 07/13/2010 12:28:09 AM PDT by tsomer
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To: Judges Gone Wild

You know the Moose are giggling themselves silly over the idea of a mosque at Ground Zero. Mosques, with minarets, are typically placed at sites of Moose victories.


7 posted on 07/13/2010 12:29:28 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: tsomer

Jews typically don’t make distinctions between the behavior of pope-led churches vs. the behavior of scripture-led churches, especially as they’ve had a lot more experience (and bitter experience) with the former. On the Jewish eschatological time scale, the Protestants and evangelicals are but a blip.


8 posted on 07/13/2010 12:33:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: neverdem
The author apparently only uses manufactured cliff notes. Because it was brothers that sold a brother Joseph because of jealously, that was indeed allowed by the Heavenly Father that caused or brought forth the Egyptian captivity.... And even through the miracle of their freedom the children itched whined and murmured once they were guided by divine intervention with safety of an overhead light by night and a cloud of covering during the day, and even provided angels food to sustain them, still could not be satisfied. There was NO other religious/political interference described as cause for them to complain... but they did non-stop. Things deteriorated to the point the children demanded to return to Egypt. So instead of letting that happen they got to wander in the wilderness until the ones of 20 years and older died off .... they would NOT be allowed into the promise land.

And it was by Heavenly direction and even being foretold what was going to happen that sent the House of Judah into the Babylonian captivity. And it was by divine direction that a certain person would send forth out of Babylon with the funds to rebuild the previously sacked temple.

And we in this nation freely elected a modern day Pharaoh that is daily placing all of US unto his bondage. Moses penned in Deuteronomy what would happen IF the children turned their collective backs upon the Heavenly Father.... Moses laid out what would bring the blessings and what would bring curses... and so it is.

Oh as far as the other two religions one need only look around this globe to see their success rate. This author does not demonstrate that he knows who is in control and things have occurred exactly as they were foretold they would.

9 posted on 07/13/2010 1:06:23 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: neverdem

This article is loaded with BS at the beginning. Christianity is NOT responsible for the Holocaust, Hitler and the German people are. Many Christians died under the 3rd Reich, defending Jewish people.


10 posted on 07/13/2010 1:27:18 AM PDT by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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I don’t feel like taking the time to point out all the other errors, some of which are already indicated by others, above.

Usually, American Thinker has a better quality of writer.....


11 posted on 07/13/2010 1:29:44 AM PDT by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD................)
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To: neverdem
At best, islam is literally the bastard child of Judaism. Giving it any sort of legitimate link to Judaism is an insult to the Jewish people. There's simply no way the God of the Jewish people is the same god as the god of islam.

And comparing the Crusades to the Holocaust? What kind of flawed thinking is this? The Crusades were a defensive response to the invasion of Europe by the muslims. Sadly, they were only partly successful in repelling the invasion, as the muslims were able to set up shop in southeastern Europe for 500 years.

12 posted on 07/13/2010 2:32:11 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: Judges Gone Wild
VOTE OUT BLOOMBERG AND EVERY IDIOT WHO IS ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN. CALL AND WRITE THE MAYOR’S OFFICE RELENTLESSLY.

Sadly it seems most of the opposition to this monument of islamic victory is coming from outside of New York City. The voting majority of people in the city seem to be perfectly accepting of this atrocity. It really is too bad that most of these people couldn't recognize islamic extremism even if it crashed a plane into a building, twice.

13 posted on 07/13/2010 2:35:55 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: neverdem
I thought the word “mosque” was just arabic for holy ammunition dump...at least that's what they were being used as in Iraq, and almost certainly elsewhere.
14 posted on 07/13/2010 2:38:51 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: neverdem

Please don’t take offense neverdem, but the author’s piece is rather inaccurate and poorly written.


15 posted on 07/13/2010 2:42:17 AM PDT by sayuncledave
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To: neverdem
After Rome embraced Christianity under Constantine, the Church fathers increasingly used temporal powers to discriminate against the Jews and proscribe and mock the practice of their faith. In time, this led to the horrors of the Crusades, the Catholic inquisition, forced conversions, pogroms, and ultimately, to the Holocaust.

I stopped reading right there.

This author has not one whit of a clue about evil, Satan, eternal destiny, the Jewish people, Israel, or God's word.

16 posted on 07/13/2010 3:40:19 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: neverdem
Perhaps the most egregious and blatant example of Islamic triumphalism is the planned construction of a giant mosque in New York, almost upon the site of the horrific destruction of the Twin Towers by Moslem terrorists acting in the name of Allah.

The proposed mosque is to be opened in 2011 on the very anniversary of the September 11, 2001 atrocity -- a flagrant insult to the memory of the thousands of innocents who died at the hands of Moslem fanatics and believers, most of them Saudis.


17 posted on 07/13/2010 3:55:51 AM PDT by snowsislander
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To: HiTech RedNeck
A notable New Testament fact is that the Lord’s Day (commemorating the resurrection of Jesus) and the Jewish Sabbath were contemporaneously observed by Christians.

It is a sad fact that corruption began in the early church as it lost its roots. As pagans, that worshipped the sun, were incorporated into the church, their day of worship was contemporaneously observe (Sun Day). The truth is Jesus kept the Sabbath as prescribed in the Fourth Commandment. He proclaimed the Sabbath as the Lords Day (Mark 2:28). There is no Biblical commandment to observe Sunday as there is for the sabbath. If we love Jesus He reminds us to keep His Commandments.

18 posted on 07/13/2010 3:56:16 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Even the earth is bipolar.)
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To: Persevero

Agreed and Islam is no daughter to Isreal.


19 posted on 07/13/2010 4:13:00 AM PDT by Broker (Genesis 18: 22-33)
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To: BipolarBob

The Lord’s Day merited mention in the Bible as a day of observation. It takes some twisting to attempt to reason from that to the purported conclusion that observing it is wrong. In parallel to the Old Testament it would be quite fair to call it “a” sabbath, in the sense that various Old Testament observations that fall on weekdays are called sabbaths. This one is different, however, in that it’s voluntary. Legalism about it is just plain wrong.


20 posted on 07/13/2010 12:41:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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