Posted on 07/11/2010 6:43:39 PM PDT by Islander7
THESE are the kind of SCUM a long series of American Presidents and COngresses have pandered to in Saudi Arabia and other nations, and NOW PRESENT in the U.S.
E.G. the plan to build a Mosque at the 9-1-1 site.
Islam is NOT a religion. It is a death cult WORSE than anything ever seen in the U.S. before.
Muslims should be given three choices:
Convert to another religion of their choice or leave.
Great post.
Very moving in its accuracy and I hope more people take it to heart.
The importation of palistinian arabs is not well known and the more you elaborate upon that issue, the more we can focus on them as the real villains.
Don't know the answer here. . .beyond the Muslim self-servance; beyond the insult and injury to every New Yorker and every American; many Americans realize the threat posed and intended here. And we need many more to realize same.
Think Islam as it 'rises' here in America and around the globe must be recognized not as a 'religion' - and so have the 'freedoms of such'; but rather for what more it is - a foreign enemy government - making home/taking hold, wherever it moves.
Islamism - as used by jihadist/terrorist/et al is a totalitarian system of sadistical control over the lives of those who make up the population of believers - an MO embedded in a 'faith'. Their mosques not just places of prayer; but Governments, of and in themselves. They are not just 'sacred space'; but Trojan horses used to get through the gates and inside the city. And we know what happens after that.
Many who are Americans and share a Muslim faith; are wittingly and unwittingly - as case may be - supporting a treason against America. If their brand of Islam does not ascribe to such anti-America agendas; then they should step forward, and rename their 'faith brand' i.e. Reformed Muslims - or somesuch. . .
Meantime, we have a huge and threatening movement going on; a political threat; and we have no legitimate response as political correctness blurs perceptions and thwarts our 'will'; and so silences. A boycott threat, maybe. . .(Obama/Holder will probably declare this a 'hate crime' - whatever/sigh. . .) but certainly, everyone can let 'the Mayor' know how they feel; and their Congressmen. (There are petitions on net to sign as well.)
Most critically, is to move through the damning, mind-numbing, PC suspensions of judgment, so as to realize the threat of Islam in America and demand that our Leadership do the same.
(Will say, Lt.Col. Allen West, in Fla./candidate for Congress 'gets it' and gives great testimony to the Islamic threat; and Senate hopeful, Marco Rubio - 'get it's it as well. Make sure your Leadership is doing the same.)
OK, so it wasn't "rape rape"....still sounds like murder murder, though...
The theory is that the "Indo-Europeans" originated in the region of Northern Iran and moved outward. It's a geographical designation.
Also, the definitions of the various sub-groups of Indo-Europeans are linguistic and cultural as much as anything else.
As to evolution, there is the social form as well as the biologic sense of the word. I'm not sure about biology, but I am certain that the Europeans have evolved culturally-- for example we no longer hang the severed heads of former enemies over our doors as we did around 500 BC. I call that improvement
Thank you. That was very interesting. Recent archaeological finds bear out that there was a culture of people who first transitioned from hunting to agriculture in the Caucasus region.
How long ago did Moses walk this earth? Now according to what he penned in Genesis 2:5 after the 7th day....there was not a man to till the ground.
And yet he penned prior to this there were peoples, and while NO names are given he wrote "These are THE GENERATIONS OF THE HEAVENS AND OF THE EARTH when they were created,...", and I consider it the most definitive record known to man that there were peoples already created upon this earth before the ground tiller was formed. So it should be NO surprise to discover archaeological finds of peoples who farmed, tilled the ground as their means to survive in that geographic region.
Why is it that the majority of specialized study is intent upon disregarding, ignoring and making up out of moth eaten cloth their own historical records? On the sixth day Moses penned Genesis 1:26 And God said, "Let US make man in Our image, after Our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."
Note, nothing about farmers being made on the sixth day. I do realize that it is NOT PC to inject Moses in a politically viewed topic called science but there is no literal evidence that contradicts what is Written. And I don't like to chase 'hope and change' artists, I prefer to have my facts served rare without man handling them to make them politically I mean religiously correct.
Suit yourself.
Like Persia, Greece has suffered from the depraved Turk Muslims and their depravities. Before them, the peoples of the middle east and N AFRICA had to suffer through arab Muslim invasions and forced assimilations...THE PEOPLE OF AFRICAN ARE STILl DEALING WITH THAT HORROR...
We share your sense of horror and suffering.
God Bless.
Most Basij are not Persians, correct? They brought in Arabs for their savagery vs Iranian people.
Makes sense. They get Arab Muslims to go after their mortal enemy, the Persians. If there is one thing that Arab Muslims hate more than Jews, it is Persians regardless of their religion. I know in the Middle East, there is a lot of hatred towards each other between Arabs, Persians, and Turks.
Thanks FARS.
Good post. I know a lot of about Iran from having many friends who are Persians. Persians got a very long and glorious history. Persians look like Eastern Europeans to me.
Did you send me this? I lost track ...
Hezb’allah cell rolled up in ... Tijuana [Ameican Thinker]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2551561/posts
“Mexican authorities have rolled up a Hezbollah network being built in Tijuana, right across the border from Texas and closer to American homes than the terrorist hideouts in the Bekaa Valley are to Israel.”
Thanks for the historical information.
Thanks Fars for the ping.
>>>”To go a step further, the relationship between “ethnicity”, “language”, “culture” and genetic kinship are not exact.”
I agree with this. Add religion to it too.
However, for the rest of the comments in posts # 23, 27, and 76:
>>>”Persians, as it turns out, are obviously a Semitic people who were militarily defeated by a remarkably small group of Indo-Europeans at some time in the distant past.”
What “distant past” are we talking about? Any ideas? I want to specifically know why Persians were “Obviously” a Semitic people.
>>>”It’s so difficult to tell the difference between the Palestinians and the Persians when you get them under the microscope it’s not worth the effort is it.”
>>>”No doubt there are minority groups in Iran, but close analysis of mtDNA reveals there are no differences between Iranians and Iraquis (for one thing), and little differences between that cluster and other Semites in the Middle East.”
Honestly, I think the above quotes & argument are very poorly analyzed, phrased and stated. The most outlandish & ignorant are “Indo-Europeans” were supposedly Bedouin, desert-dwelling “Arabs” in post # 76?
But if “mtDNA” is an exact science, then evidence should be provided for the quoted assertions.
Language & linguistics always reflect culture & as a side product “religion”. At the end of the day these are the ones that make the difference.
I mean I really want to know the mtDNA and therefore genetic relationship between apes, monkeys, chimps, Ahmadinejad and a couple of others who in no way would be considered Semites or of Iranians origins!
I hear that quotes such as the above-mentioned ones every so often surface on the internet, but then those who make them suddenly choose to change their tune, and disappear after their “mtDNA” results are about to be disclosed on them!
muawiyah, et al, thanks for one of the most interesting posts this lurker has come across. Mu, it is fascinating to get a glimpse of what genetic mitochondrial tracking is finding and how it clashes with traditional language and military history, which are controlled by the winner!
It is my understanding that the findings of mitochondrial tracking are too explosive to be published.
My own musings are that we had many pockets of inbreeding leading to extremes of differentiation, and even failure to thrive, and many explosive expansions of gene pools on the other hand. Religion, family structure, language, political leadership and factors such as morals or lack thereof would have a bigger impact than genetics, if WWII is any indication.
The white folks used to argue that the Sa'ami in the far North of Europe had East Asian (Siberian) origins ~ at least in part.
DNA analysis revealed them to be pretty much identical to other Western Europeans (as if their dominant A+ blood didn't already prove that). In fact, much of their physical differences were due to their retention of older European characteristics while their Southern cousins were out mixing it up with strangers from the East and Souf'.
One of the more interesting surprises in all of the DNA studies is the revelation that the Sakha, an Eastern Siberian Turkic linguistic, cultural, and genetic group living in Yakutia have a relationship with the Sa'ami!
Recently their oldest records were finally deciphered by Russian archaeologists and it seems these same Sakha had spent a very long time in India ~ where they were known as the Sakha ~ which is noteworthy since Buddha was a Sakha which is where his statues get his East Asian looks.
For a variety of reasons they left India and went back to Yakutia about 200 AD (a date that coincides with a serious surge by Hindu elements to push Buddhism out of India ~ hint, hint ~ this is called the Hindu Revolution).
The Sakha were always a mystery to archaeologists and anthropologists because they had a Turkic language AND herded cattle (along with horses, goats, sheep, reindeer, yaks, etc.) This made them UNIQUE in the area. Their origins were postulated to have been to the South East near Lake Baikal among other Turkic speaking people.
The latest discoveries proved that they couldn't have originated there because "those people" weren't living there at the time the Sakha left Yakutia to go to India (and why India?).
The other mystery was how these herdsmen could maintain technological parity with the Chinese over such a long period of time.
Sometime around 540 AD a lot of them left Yakutia and moved Southeast to Korea, and then to Japan ~ (conquering both, and imposing their Turkic language on the natives). That's roughly the time of the climatological catastrophe that wiped out Western Europe and East Asia (called the Dark Ages).
The Sakha are now believed to be the very people who brought Buddhism to Korea and Japan but they didn't bring a written language. No one has any evidence to support the destruction of their central core of intelligentsia surrounding their royal family but it's entirely possible the climatological disaster simply killed them all further South close to China where they lived ~ away from the vast herds the nation otherwise kept in Siberia.
Writing was brought later to Japan from Korea by the royal family that'd imposed its will in the 6th century (or their immediate successors who may well have arisen among the Ya-yoi people ~ again, a mystery. The later written record of the mythical kings clearly shows a total replacement of the royal family that arrived in the early 500s with a different royal family that'd either been there all along ~ maybe over the Yahoi, or as just some new nobleman taking over).
What the Japanese don't know about their history they don't want to know of course, so it's actually difficult to stick this all together, but at least with the new knowledge of who the Sakha were it's possible someone will figure out their early Dark Ages.
The "mythical kings" of the Japanese are no longer considered so mythical and its possible they can now be identified in Chinese references to the Sakha. Some of them may have been notable figures in India for that matter.
And the Sa'ami link ~ the Sakha have some Sa'ami ancestry. The Sa'ami don't have Sakha ancestry. Those polar people stick together Fur Shur!
One last thing ~ the Indian Epic, "The Mahabarat" mentions the Sakha warriors. Doesn't say a lot about them, but it mentions them.
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