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Illegal Immigration Costs U.S. $113 Billion a Year, Study Finds
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| July 06, 2010
| Ed Barnes
Posted on 07/06/2010 1:46:02 PM PDT by Christus_Rex
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To: Rennes Templar
Kyle said they could build a very good fence for $2 billion! I wonder what the costs involved are going to be in suing AZ?
Thus POTUS is agenda driven and that agenda doesn't bode well for our sovereignty.
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posted on
07/06/2010 3:26:56 PM PDT
by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: EGPWS
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posted on
07/06/2010 3:28:10 PM PDT
by
EGPWS
(Trust in God, question everyone else)
To: Christus_Rex
Plus 300 BILLION in foreign aid to their government.
Eventually, it add up that your tribe is paying for everyone.
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posted on
07/06/2010 4:13:53 PM PDT
by
edcoil
(OK, so what's the speed of dark?)
To: Christus_Rex
2 comments:
First, actual cost to taxpayers is at least double, since about 1/2 of households do not pay taxes.
Second, eliminate all aid to Mexico. Let the country tax remittances sent from families in the U.S.
To: Christus_Rex
The Fed’s lack of enforcement turns our states into piles of manure, and they expect us to call it roses.
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posted on
07/06/2010 6:01:32 PM PDT
by
GVnana
To: Monkey Face
Even the old, weak and disabled blacks are getting screwed big time.
It was never about helping the ‘with-outs’, it was strickly
about taking over by pulling the wool over everyones eyes.
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posted on
07/06/2010 6:23:27 PM PDT
by
TribalPrincess2U
(demonicRATS... taxes, pain and slow death. Is this what you want?)
To: Christus_Rex
$133 billion a year? Chicken feed, and a bargain at TWICE the price, compared to what the Muslim President is currently adding to the deficit!
To: B4Ranch
" Free medical, free education, free food, free day care etc., etc, etc." If the taxpayers are laboring
to pay their taxes
so that illegals can have their free stuff
that means that the illegals are the masters
and we are their slaves
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posted on
07/06/2010 10:05:10 PM PDT
by
oprahstheantichrist
(The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
To: gleeaikin
"While they may be costing some of us money, others are saving money on cheap labor for home improvement projects." What happens if the "cheap labor" source injures himself on my property and decides to sue me?
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posted on
07/06/2010 10:13:29 PM PDT
by
oprahstheantichrist
(The MSM is a demonic stronghold, PLEASE pray accordingly - 2 Corinthians 10:3-5)
To: oprahstheantichrist
That’s the dream of the politicians in DC and the execs in the boardrooms. That explains why everyone is so worried about the blue collar support behind Brewer and Palin.
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posted on
07/06/2010 10:49:21 PM PDT
by
B4Ranch
(Remember, guys, the enemy is to the left.)
To: EGPWS
Why would an
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF
want to crack down ... on ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?
Let's examine
how Hawaii legally can issue bcs for those born out of stateand then hide this factby issuing a certificate stating BORN IN HAWAII OAHU HONOLULU"
I refer you to
Birth Certificate Vs. Certification Of Live Birth.
We just did a story bringing to light how
To say that we started a firestorm would be putting it mildly.
We had our fair share of rational responses,
as well as the usual off-topic comments, accusations of being right-wing nuts, etc.
As well as a few that were too obscene to put into print.
It turns out that our theorythat the document presented by Obama appears to be homemade has some support,
Our friend Pamela at Atlas Shrugs also presents a compelling case
And for you Obamanites
Pay close attention to the following Hawaiian legal statute:
“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child,
the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health
that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii
had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.
(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health
in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate.
The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91
that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates
and to require any further information or proof of events
necessary for completion of a birth certificate.
(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91.
Everybody get that?
As long as an adult can walk into Hawaii’s version of the Department of Records
and provide proof that they (the parents) are a legal resident of Hawaii,
the document is issued.
The child, on the other hand, could have been born in Hawaii, KENYA, or a back-alley in Budapest.
How much more proof do you disciples of the Messiah need before you will admit that there are legitimate reasons to demand answers on this issue?
Of course the fact that Obama may have been elected to our nation’s highest office in direct violation of the United States Constitutionis NOT something that would greatly trouble a dedicated Kool-Aid drinker.
But you STILL WON'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH that
Barack Hussein Obama II ...is ... THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT IN CHIEF!!!
Here is some more information and links
and all of this without using the link to "the source of the "moderator-offending-video" by a group called The Council of Conservative Citizens.
This is NOT a Conservative group, do not be fooled by the name.
This group is a front group for a neo-Nazi group known as the National Alliance and is associated with Stormfront.
(But I don't see how those groups are MORE OFFENSIVE THAN the Marxists and Fascists in the White House.)
I have several witnesses,
that have proven to me that
Barack Hussein Obama II was born in Kenya.
First witness, Barack Hussein Obama II himself:
Hmm…An AP story from 2004 entitled Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate has been discovered on archive.org by many sites (and twitter where I got this). Does this mean now that the AP is nothing but a bunch of birthers?
Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations. ...
The above artice is also found at
FreedomsPhoenix.com.
They have a great spoof Birth Certificate you just gotta' see.
Also view the video at
Proof Obama Admits He Was Born In Kenya.
Second witnesses, his mother and father, indirectly through their divorce papers.
Ed Hale, aprivate investigator in Hawaii, has uncovered the divorce decree for Barack Obamas father and mother, which indicates they had one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.
But a later Update 1/1/2009,... "In his 7:45pm Plains Radio broadcast, this last night, Ed Hale backed down from his prior assertion of having gained even uncertain information about the Barack Sr. / Stanley Ann divorce decree containing language referring to Barack Jr. as being born in Kenya. Instead, Hale referred to an apparently tricky recollection... of an ... referring to such a document's generally referring to the place of birth of the children of the divorced parents."
I believe that
"indeterminate person" probably SAW the
Obama Dunham Divorce Documents BEFORE Page 11 disappeared and
viewed the Kenyan Birth Cerfiticate, thereby telling Ed Hale
"the divorce decree for Barack Obamas father and mother, indicates they had 'one child under the age of eighteen, born in Kenya.' ".
The
Obama Dunham Divorce Documents are viewable at this location.
There's a great assumption of the time lime at at link.
See the whole Obama 1964 divorce on Scribd.com or as 13 individual images below (in proper order):
I immediately called the clerk in Hawaii and asked where the extra page was. She looked, and counted, and said that there must be some mistake in the records she counted only 13 pages that are available for reprint. I pointed out to her that the page count she sent skipped from page 10 to page 12 page 11 was missing. To that, she suggested that perhaps the pages were simply misnumbered before they where archived into the microfiche.
I accepted her answer, not thinking much about it at the time. Perhaps it was just a clerical error in the 1960s, when hand-filed paper records and IBM punch cards were how court documents were tracked and maintained.
I have since come to learn that Obama and his team of lawyers have been working to sanitize his records since he announced that he’d run for President circa November 2004. Now in the White House, hes still ACTIVELY blocking subpoenas for such documents as his Cambridge and Occidental College records TODAY the same type of documents promised to be made available during his campaign. Obama and his lawyers are exceedingly adept at exploiting loopholes in Hawaiian birth certificate law to keep Obamas past hidden from the American people.
This missing page page 11 very likely is a copy of the original birth certificate, based upon the prima facie timeline of the 1964 divorce. The Kenya birth certificate was likely requested on Jan 23, 1964 by either Judge King (to award custody on the next trial date), or recommended to Ann Dunham by her attorney for the ex parte divorce, where only one parent was expected to be present.
The missing page, 11, should be chronologically-numbered as all other pages were in the original docket file, by the court clerk at the time. Starting at page 8, Exhibit A is placed where it would have occurred by date in the paperwork (and appeared on microfiche), even denoting an erased, yet barely-readable “8″ on both pages of the returned notification sent to Obama SR. The missing page, numbered as page 11, would likely be a page that would have been admitted to the divorce file sometime in mid- to late-February 1964 almost as if it were an undocumented Exhibit B.
Heres a very plausible timeline merging the 1964 Obama Divorce papers and new Kenya birth certificate:
Jan 20 (Mon) divorce request is filed by Stanley Ann D. Obama
Jan 23 (Thur) divorce orders for trial are given by Judge King at chambers
(note if the judge, or Ann Dunhams attorney, told her to order the Kenya birth certificate, it would have been mailed 10,000 miles away, to the Coast Province Registrars office of the Republic of Kenya, likely arriving around the first week of February 1964 to be processed)
Jan 28 (Tue) Gail A. Watanabe, presumably an assistant of Ann Obama attorney George Kerr, mails the notification for trial to Obama SR (her affidavit is signed Feb 3 and filed)
Jan 30 (Thur) via Air Mail, notification of trial arrives at Obama SRs Cambridge, Mass, address. The 10-day “knock and nail” notification would have expired on Sun, Feb 9. Therefore, the next trial date would have been automatically set, per Judge Kings instructions, for the first Tuesday, 30 days later, on March 3
Feb 10 (Mon) allowing for a 10-day knock and nail notification for trial, Obama SR’s trial notification would have been retrieved by the US Post Office on this date, to be mailed back (as events turned out UNSIGNED by Obama SR) to Hawaii as an exhibit for trial
Feb 17 (Mon) the Obama Kenya birth certificate is signed by the Coast Province Deputy Registrar, to be mailed back to Hawaii for receipt by Ann Obama and/or her attorney (note: mail time would have ranged from a few days (Air Mail) to a couple of weeks (ship), arriving back in Hawaii in the last week of February to first week of March 3 (Tue). Based upon Judge Kings Jan 23 orders for the next trial date, “at 9:30 a.m. on the first Tuesday after thirty (30) days have elapsed from and after the date” that Obama SR would have been served with the notice of trial. That notification came back, unsigned, by Obama SR, so Anns attorneys surely requested, and received Default Judgment for the divorce in her favor for grievous mental suffering
Mar 5 (Thur) trial takes place in favor of divorce in Hawaii, placing custody of Obama JR to his mother by default (note: the trial was likely rescheduled 2 days after the automatically set date of Mar 3, possibly for the convenience of the judge and/or parties)
Mar 20 (Fri) the divorce decree is signed by Judge King
In Hawaii, birth certificates are not Public Record. If the Kenya birth certificate was a part of the divorce decree, it may have been pulled out at the end of the trial, or more recently by a watchful archivist or attorneys wishing to remove unfavorable information about Obama.
To date, despite other honest attempts to refute the Kenya birth certificate, such as dealing with when the Republic of Kenya came into existence as a republic have been un-bunked. Dishonest alterations of the Kenya birth certificate have been maliciously created by sites such as Democratic Underground, designed to discredit the Kenya birth certificate theyve been un-bunked as well.
Having not actually seeing the Kenya birth certificate, and its chain of evidence, no intellectually-honest person can say if its real or not. By the same token, none of us have seen or touched the short-form Certification of Live Birth that has appeared on Obamas Fight the Smears or FactCheck.org websites.
No one can confirm the chain of evidence of Obamas Certification of Live Birth that has appeared online, which is the abbreviated-version of Obamas true, 1961, original long-form(s) Certificate of Live Birth and associated vital statistics records. Even the Hawaii Department of Health directly refuses to verify Obamas online COLBs.
Third witness, is Barack Hussein Obama II's grandmother,
Sarah Hussein Obama:
View the video
Barack Obama - Born in Kenya II at Youtube.com.
Did Obama's grandmother say he was born in Kenya?The Oct. 16, 2008, telephone interview was conducted by American Christian minister Ron McRae, who describes himself in his affidavit as an overseer of the Anabaptist Churches in North America and a "Presiding Elder on the African Presbytery."
McRae, who called from Detroit, says Sarah Obama was in a public setting with several hundred people listening to the telephone call on a speakerphone. The interpreter was Vitalis Akech Ogombe, the community chairman of Sarah Obama's village of Nyang'oma Kogelo in Western Kenya, 30 miles west of the Lake Victoria-city of Kisumu.
"In the ensuing public conversation, I asked Ms. Obama specifically, 'Were you present when your grandson was born in Kenya?'"
McRae testified in his sworn statement. "This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she replied, "Yes! Yes she was! She was present when Obama was born."
Watch and LISTEN to the video
BARACK OBAMA - BORN IN KENYA - The Documentary - STUNNING!and prove it to yourself.
Also watch
Affidavit and Tape-Proof Obama Born in Kenya.
The fourth witness, Tim Adams,"Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State."
(
It is now confirmed by Hawaii that Tim Adams did indeed work as a senior elections clerk in 2008)
Election official: I'd testify Obama not born in Hawaii
"The things I've said, I don't mind testifying in court," Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.
"I was working there, and this is what it was. I'm not a lawyer, just a civil servant. I know what I know. I know what I was told by the hospitals and by my supervisors."
"There is no birth certificate," he said. "It's like an open secret. There isn't one. Everyone in the government there knows this."
"I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver's license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone's identity," Adams explained. "I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama]."
At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen's Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.
"They told us, 'We don't have a birth certificate for him,'" he said. "They told my supervisor, either by phone or by e-mail, neither one has a document that a doctor signed off on saying they were present at this man's birth."
To date, no Hawaiian hospital has provided documented confirmation Obama was born at its facility.
Adams, 45, stressed, "In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."
WND confirmed with Hawaiian officials that Adams was indeed working in their election offices during the last presidential election.
"His title was senior elections clerk in 2008," said Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu.
Adams oversaw a group of 50 to 60 employees and was responsible for verifying the identity of voters, especially absentee voters.
"If you're working in the civil service and you say this, you're done," Adams said. "Don't expect to have a good career, especially since the governor is on the other side. Embarassing them is not good for your career."
The Fifth witness, Michelle Obama.
The Sixth Witness, Kenyan Ambassador Peter Ogego:
The Seventh Witness, James Orengo (the Kenyan Parliament Minister of Lands): The Eighth Witness, Lucas Daniel Smith,
Watch and learn.
(Just click on them for the source information.)
And finally, an outstanding video to watch,
Case CLOSED!!!
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posted on
07/06/2010 10:59:09 PM PDT
by
Yosemitest
(It's simple, fight or die.)
To: TribalPrincess2U
As I recall my comment, there was no race distinction: Anyone who is old, diabled or weak is a target.
The ADA laws were set in place to help those with disabilities, but in enacting them, the laws helped a lot of seniors because as we age, we become weak and disabled with various diseases that have a late onset in life.
Because the disabled draw social security classified as disability, the funding affects them as well as the seniors. And it’s across all races and classes of people. There is no distinction between them. The only criteria being that they are dependent on the government for their livlihood.
Although there are programs to help them get better services, even those programs are cut. It’s not pretty, no matter who it happens to.
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posted on
07/07/2010 5:25:32 AM PDT
by
Monkey Face
(I wear a yellow ribbon for the intrepid CG explorer!)
To: Special Agent Anthony DiNozzo
And 20 million illegal alien families times $20,000 per family per year comes to $400 BILLION PER YEAR. The figures I've seen estimate 20 million illegal aliens, not illegal alien families. If you figure 4 per family, then you get $100 billion per year; pretty much in line with the figure in the article.
To: Yosemitest
Thanks for that humongous core dump of old garbage.
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posted on
07/07/2010 9:06:42 AM PDT
by
Polarik
To: Any Fate But Submission
What about the cost of the tens of billions they send back to Mexico that does not get spent here in the US. In a booming economy it is not noticed so much but now it is contributing to no or negative economic growth (jobs).”
I have achallenge for Freepers:
Get out your phone book & find the Western Union station closest to you. Many are in the grocery stores.
Go there on a Friday afternoon or a Saturday morning.
Just sit & watch the parade of persons lined up to send their money south of our borders.
Get an eyeful & pass this info on to others.
Be prepared to be shocked.
To: Zeppelin
Cost to US Taxpayers = $113,000,000,000 per year
Length of US-Mexico Border = 1,969 miles
We could take the equivalent of what illegal immigrants cost us EACH YEAR, and invest that money into building one monstrous wall, at the cost of $57,389,537 per mile, or $10,869 per FOOT.
One years worth. Im just sayin.”
I second that motion.
Excellent calculations !!!
Puts it all into perspective.
To: gleeaikin
Personal observation: I went today (100 degree temp. predicted) to Home Depot to buy ACs. At 11:30 am there were about 40 hispanics hanging around hoping for work. When I left at 2 pm, there were about 25. On other occasions I have seen as many as 100. While they may be costing some of us money, others are saving money on cheap labor for home improvement projects.”
In So Calif, before I left there, Home Depot was building ‘shelters’ from the sun & weather for the illegals who were hounding shoppers for day work.
I got so mad that I have not returned to a Home Depot store since 1992.
They are part of the problem much more than they are part of the solution.
To: tnlibertarian
That's because the estimates you see are deliberately low [so as to lull you into a false sense of security].
We probably have at least 60 million Mexican/Guatemalan/El Salvadoran Indians and their anchor babies in the USA now - maybe even 80 million.
To: ridesthemiles
Thanks...I didn’t expect it to be that drastic, but after calculating, I myself was blown away!
Glenn Beck needs to hammer these numbers home!
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posted on
07/07/2010 11:39:53 AM PDT
by
Zeppelin
(Keep on FReepin' on...)
To: ridesthemiles; All
” were hounding HD shoppers for day work”
These guys were clustered under small trees, and rarely approach anybody. Sometimes they smile and wave. I think they must have a raproachment with HD. Don’t bug the shoppers and we won’t chase you away.
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posted on
07/07/2010 8:38:25 PM PDT
by
gleeaikin
(question authority)
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