All they've ever known is insurrection, war, poverty, tribalism and the lowest living standards. I think they're used to it and just don't care what kind of power is running the show on any given day.
They're content to live for today, never mind what possibilities the future could bring to a motivated, educated, industrious society. They cannot visualize it at all, except for any modern intellects among them.
At least the Iraqis were partly civilized and educated and had the benefit of a long, sometimes illustrious national history in early times which motivated them somewhat to restore at least a semblance of a functioning, progressive society.
This generation of Afghanis as a whole does not truly comprehend a civil society, not having experienced one in its lifetime what with the Russians plus tribal incidents as a regular occurence for decades. They are used to what they have and don't have. They appear to be content to be led like the animals they herd. We see them as stuck in the cave age as the march of time moves forward. As a placid society, they don't see things this way like we do. Do they really care to live like Westerners do?
My take is that if they choose to remain slaves while ruled by militant dictators and murderers, so be it. However, as long as the radical muzzies among them persist and plot against us we must resist them.
A nuclear "glassifying" in Afghan would be extreme......perhaps pulpifying would be a better option. There's not much left of a "country" anymore, anyhow.
At any rate, in a never-ending war, many are killed.....is it going to be the muzzies and their zombie-like followers in the populace......or our troops?
The "cause" still necessitates us sticking around for a while. But it's wearing thin and I know our own population will not support it much longer. Obama knows this and is just waiting it out, conducting a minimum war and Petraeus is window-dressing. The Usurper is desperate for money to keep this country from collapse and he's got to end the war somehow. So I doubt if there'll be a winning "surge", just gradual disengagement.....and I'll wager just about most everyone, including conservatives, will be secretly happy to be out of that desolate, futureless country
Leni
We have to stay there as long as it takes, that is a fact. I don’t even know if you can call Afghanistan a country, it is more like a place, a no mans land. The indigenous people don’t have any allegiance to their country as a whole, they are aligned with their tribe. If someone doesn’t like how things are going they just kill the guy a head of him and take over, the people are accustomed to this. Upward mobility is achieved through death or money.
That being said, it is not the Afghanis that are the problem, it is the other countries in the region that are pulling the strings. Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, they are fighting us using Afghanistan as a front. We leave, we give them base of operations, their hands appear clean because it is not coming from their country, per say. Then lets take into consideration, Pakistan. Do we walk away and leave an area that share a border, a population of zealots that have nukes?
I would love to see the theocracy in Iran taken down. I think we would then have some stability in the region.