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Liz Cheney joins calls for Steele to step down as leader of the RNC
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Posted on 07/03/2010 9:09:36 AM PDT by Sub-Driver

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To: skeeter
I love the Cheneys but from a purely historical point of view Steele is right.

Where Steele was wrong, was in his comments about Afghanistan being a war of OBAMA'S choosing! Nope, Mr. Steele, it was George W. Bush who began that action, as he should have, when it became clear that Afghanistan had been the base of operations for the 9/11 attacks.

I don't know if Mr. Steele was just trying to tie the operations in Afghanistan around Obama's neck in the event that they fail, but he sure didn't make it sound too good for Republicans, and their efforts to support the troops.

21 posted on 07/03/2010 9:35:50 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: skeeter
"I love the Cheneys but from a purely historical point of view Steele is right."

How so?

Afghanistan has been successfully invaded many times. It is common misinformation that it was not.

22 posted on 07/03/2010 9:37:34 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: Sub-Driver
"There are other ways to engage in Afghanistan.”

What are the "other ways", Chairman Steele?

23 posted on 07/03/2010 9:37:49 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Sub-Driver

Steele will be the October suprise, when he resigns in October he will claim rascism as the reason.


24 posted on 07/03/2010 9:39:00 AM PDT by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ev Reeman

Agree he needs to go, but kinda agree with what he said about Afghanistan.


25 posted on 07/03/2010 9:39:12 AM PDT by altura
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To: Captain Kirk

Well, howdedo. You are right in league with Obama and you’re both wrong.


26 posted on 07/03/2010 9:40:24 AM PDT by altura
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To: Ev Reeman

I nominate Liz Cheney. She rocks and doesn’t hold back.


27 posted on 07/03/2010 9:41:07 AM PDT by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Eagles6
Successfully invaded - yes, exactly. But the british and russians lost alot of soldiers trying to establish garrisons in that country for no discernable results.

Afghanistan is not Iraq - its a wild country. I've thought from the beginning we needed to avoid a prolonged engagement there, kick ass and then promise to come back & kick ass again if they misbehaved.

28 posted on 07/03/2010 9:43:12 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: DefeatCorruption

Let’s ask Liz herself. Put her in charge of the committee to find another RNC Chair!

If she follows in her family’s tradition, she will end up nominating herself as the best potential candidate.


29 posted on 07/03/2010 9:47:23 AM PDT by worst-case scenario (Striving to reach the light)
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To: Sub-Driver
Steele should have resigned long ago.

Totally worthless!

30 posted on 07/03/2010 9:47:39 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Captain Kirk

No, the true “sabateurs” are those who would support Obama’s War rather than act like a true OPPOSITION party. We can’t afford to keep policing the world. Steele was right.

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It is not Obama’s war, it is Bush’s war.

Genghis Khan dealt handily with this ‘invincible’ region, as he did with Moslems generally.

Steele is a liar as well as sabateur.


31 posted on 07/03/2010 9:48:48 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many gaffes make a pattern?)
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To: Psalm 144

Ghengis Khan had no ROE.


32 posted on 07/03/2010 9:50:07 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Sub-Driver

This affirmative action asshat needs to go. Make him a commentator on CNN.


33 posted on 07/03/2010 9:51:13 AM PDT by thethirddegree
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To: skeeter
Britain left after they achieved their goals. Russia lost because we backed the other side

I don't disagree with you but on the other side of the coin is the fact that jihadis from all over the world come there, as a moth to the flame, to die for mohammed (may piss be upon him). Just as in Iraq, tens of thousands of "martyrs" earned their virgins and are now not causing grief somewhere else.

On the other hand "commander zero" has no intention of winning a war against his muslim brothers. If that is the case...

34 posted on 07/03/2010 9:53:11 AM PDT by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck.)
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To: skeeter

Afghanistan is not Iraq - its a wild country. I’ve thought from the beginning we needed to avoid a prolonged engagement there, kick ass and then promise to come back & kick ass again if they misbehaved.

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Exactly.


35 posted on 07/03/2010 9:55:21 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many gaffes make a pattern?)
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To: skeeter

How to win in Afghanistan

1. Get rid of Karzai as he sanctions corruption.

2. Eliminate any deadline for withdrawal of troops

3. Eliminate the foolish ROE that Obama used to hamstring our troops

4. Replace the tribal mentality with a viable and sustainable representative government like the one we started in Iraq

5. Educate the populace

6. Train and equip Afghanis to hold and secure their own country

7. Develop the mineral resources of Afghanistan to replace the drug trade

8. Win over the hearts and minds of the Afghani people

9. Hold free and fair elections

10, Build and maintain a basic infrastructure

In other words, do what it takjes to nation build starting from the ground up and the grass roots.


36 posted on 07/03/2010 9:55:30 AM PDT by Ev Reeman
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To: skeeter

Ghengis Khan had no ROE.

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He did, but the rules were focused on utterly destroying the enemy for minimal loss.

The Mongol warmachine under Ghengis was very sophisticated in doctrine, organization, regulation and execution.


37 posted on 07/03/2010 10:00:33 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many gaffes make a pattern?)
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To: Ev Reeman

8. Win over the hearts and minds of the Afghani people

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Moslems have neither.


38 posted on 07/03/2010 10:02:04 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (How many gaffes make a pattern?)
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To: Ev Reeman

or we could have just gone in there and nuked them back to the stoneage and then left. it wold serve as a much more effective warning to anyone else who wanted to mess with us


39 posted on 07/03/2010 10:22:08 AM PDT by henry_reardon
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To: Sub-Driver

Steele has been a poster child for the “Peter Principle” from the first day he was appointed to this job.

Considering all that is at risk, our side requires a strong conservative and one with vision at the lead of the RNC.

Steele should have never been appointed and he should have been removed a long time ago.

I believe that Steele is a nice guy, but he’s not very bright and his convictions are mislead/misplaced.

As we approach one of the most important election cycles our country’s history, we can’t afford incompetence to threaten what looks like a strong potential for victory.

If Steele has any honor and self respect within him, he will immediately step down and shut up.


40 posted on 07/03/2010 10:23:17 AM PDT by Gator113 (OBAMA IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.. IMPEACH OBAMA NOW..)
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