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Gulf Oil Cover Up: Underneath Gaping Chasm of Gulf Floor is a Mt Everest Sized Cavern
American Pendulum ^ | June 14, 2010 | F. William Engdahl

Posted on 07/01/2010 6:18:50 AM PDT by fightinJAG

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To: dennisw
"So all those claims that this is a super high pressure oil/gas reservoir are BS?"

Yes.

"I see quite a few of those and that no blow out preventor could handle those pressures."

BS spread widely is still BS. But 11,000 psi is well within the design specs of this particular BOP. Building a BOP to withstand 100,000 psig is certainly not outside the abilities of today's engineering techniques.

"All ties in with abiotic oil theories which are 100% bunk too?"

That one I don't know about. IMO, the jury on abiotic oil is still out. Lots of data against, but for a long time it was thought that ulcers were due to stomach acid until one persistent doctor proved that they were caused by a bacterial infection. And it may be the case that "deep" oil is NOT abiotic, as the deeper we dig, we still find bacteria. Who is to say that there aren't some buggies deep within the earth which are converting abiotic methane (for which there is LOTS of evidence around the solar system) into oil.

121 posted on 07/02/2010 7:44:33 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog

Thanks...I always value your tech opinion and analysis


122 posted on 07/02/2010 8:31:49 AM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: All
Current Thread:

Special Report: Should BP nuke its leaking well?
Reuters ^ | Friday July 2, 2010 | By Nastassia Astrasheuskaya, Ben Judah, Alina Selyukh

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2545693/posts

Posts 7,8,11,12, etc. say / suggest "No".

Post #9 this thread says: Don’t cap it, find a way to use it - by elpadre

123 posted on 07/02/2010 8:41:29 AM PDT by Golden Gate
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To: Smokin' Joe

Yeah Joe. With nine position readout. Things are getting a bit out of hand.


124 posted on 07/02/2010 4:35:49 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: fightinJAG

If the oil doesn’t kills us, the COREXIT will.


125 posted on 07/02/2010 5:41:50 PM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: dennisw
> So you think there is something to it?

Read "The Deep Hot Biosphere" by Thomas Gold. May or may not convert you to the hypothesis, but it will definitely make you think.

126 posted on 07/03/2010 11:42:43 AM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: fightinJAG
Interesting interview with the late Thomas Gold about deep oil:
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/8.07/gold_pr.html
127 posted on 07/03/2010 12:56:42 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I probably won’t get around to reading his book. But I read that Wired article. Plus the wikipedia entry for Thomas Gold is impressive. I would not bet against such a genius

Do you think Deepwater Horizon hit a pool of a very high pressure abiotic oil/methane mixture?


128 posted on 07/03/2010 4:36:05 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: Pride in the USA
And with ol' Ben down in that cavern just turning that wheel, no telling what might happen.


129 posted on 07/03/2010 5:43:56 PM PDT by lonevoice (I can see November from my house!)
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To: mcshot; nathanbedford
Apparently everybody is involved in this conspiracy except Accim of the razor fame.

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How about Occam’s razor?

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How about Achmed’s razor?

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130 posted on 07/03/2010 5:50:13 PM PDT by lonevoice (I can see November from my house!)
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To: fightinJAG

Bookmark


131 posted on 07/03/2010 5:52:12 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: shibumi
But the fact is, we are now confronted by the fact that the world is literally swimming in oil.

Abiotic oil is a fact, regardless of who does or does not recognize it.

Unfortunately, in this instance, this geologically unlimited supply quite beyond the ability of human science to restrict means a localized ELE.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

132 posted on 07/03/2010 6:25:25 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: dennisw; fightinJAG; The Comedian
Some reading for those who are interested:

[abstract] - The Deep Hot Biosphere
http://www.pnas.org/content/89/13/6045.full.pdf

Abiogenic and Biogenic Petroleum
https://netfiles.uiuc.edu/mragheb/www/NPRE%20402%20ME%20405%20Nuclear%20Power%20Engineering/Biogenic%20and%20Abiogenic%20Petroleum.pdf

[TOC] - The Deep Hot Biosphere
http://www.gbv.de/dms/hebis-darmstadt/toc/185535321.pdf

133 posted on 07/03/2010 6:51:38 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: shibumi
I made the mistake of posting my belief in abiotic oil a couple of years ago here on FR, and was roundly booed, laughed at and told to go to my corner by the “scientific” types and PhDs from the University Advanced Shop Class.

I am with you. "Dead Dinosaurs" never sat well with me, nor my fellow astronomer friends. I'll stick with bacteria over plankton.
134 posted on 07/03/2010 7:05:51 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer; The Comedian

Thanks to both of you for your support of my opinion/theory (which of course, isn’t really mine.)

While I’m glad to find some agreement, I’m at the same time sad to realize that if we’re right, this means we are all in very deep doo-doo.


135 posted on 07/03/2010 8:43:56 PM PDT by shibumi (Soon, very soon, "Tsuru no Sugomori")
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To: shibumi
While I’m glad to find some agreement, I’m at the same time sad to realize that if we’re right, this means we are all in very deep doo-doo.

I knew after the attempted topkill we were in very deep doo-doo. The errors multiplied as if apocalypse was planned. Drilling numerous wells around the dome is the only solution. Period! But the "One" sent them all away. Madness!
136 posted on 07/03/2010 9:29:35 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: PA Engineer

The errors multiplied as if apocalypse was planned. Drilling numerous wells around the dome is the only solution. >>>>>>>>>

Eight relief wells drilled fairly close to the gusher well would relieve the pressure so the malignant well could be capped. But what if one or more of the relief wells blow out too because the pressure is so high down there?


137 posted on 07/03/2010 11:21:10 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: PA Engineer

Actually if it can be done.... If just one relief well can be drilled right into the gusher well. This relieves pressure by 50%. Maybe more if the relief well bore is wider than gusher well.

Then above that intersection relief well number two hits the gusher bore hole and starts pumping in mud and then cement. My opinion BP should be drilling two more backup relief wells right now that could be turned into production wells to help pay damages


138 posted on 07/03/2010 11:26:45 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: shibumi
While I’m glad to find some agreement, I’m at the same time sad to realize that if we’re right, this means we are all in very deep doo-doo.

Life on Earth is all teeth and blood and rot. Not much we can do about it except laugh and love.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

139 posted on 07/04/2010 7:13:31 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: PA Engineer
"Dead Dinosaurs" never sat well with me, nor my fellow astronomer friends. I'll stick with bacteria over plankton.

I'm with you on this one...

140 posted on 07/04/2010 7:18:39 AM PDT by GOPJ (There is nothing unexpected about the failure of socialism/communism.freeper pieceofthepuzzle)
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