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Newspapers Retract 'Climategate' Claims, but Damage Still Done
Newsweek ^ | 06/25/2010 | Sharon Begley

Posted on 06/26/2010 9:28:17 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

“If I must choose between the Truth and furthering my agenda, I will choose my agenda. The Truth will reveal us for what we really are.” - Main Stream Media


61 posted on 06/27/2010 5:22:12 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Lancey Howard

The Virginia attorney general is investigating whether or not Mann violated Virginia’s “Fraud Against Taxpayers Act” when he used state money to conduct research at the University of Virginia before leaving the school in 2005. The AG has requested emails, files and other documents from the University of Virginia (a public university) related to Dr. Mann’s research. The University is resisting the investigation and has hired outside private counsel to evaluate its options to resist the subpoena issued by the attorney general. Ostensibly the concern is academic freedom.

Here we have a public institution using state money to support research by its professors. The professor may or may not have violated a statute. It would seem to me if the Professor was not in violation of the statute, the University would have no issue with turning over the files. After all the research was funded with public dollars. Certainly the public has the right to review the documents.

I fail to understand the concept of academic freedom somehow being violated if all of the files, letters, emails and other documents are exposed to the sunshine of public scrutiny. If the research methodology is valid, why would the academics not welcome the review?


62 posted on 06/27/2010 6:01:14 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007; AdmSmith; Berosus; bigheadfred; blueyon; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; ...
Thanks Ultra Sonic 007.
63 posted on 06/27/2010 6:57:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: LS
Now, I don't think these were legitimate mistakes, but the bar of proof in an academic setting is vastly higher than in a courtroom.

You forgot the sarcasm tag.

64 posted on 06/27/2010 7:08:09 AM PDT by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
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To: padre35

This morning my local paper reran the endangered (climate change)polar bear story complete with a pic of mommy bear and her two cute cubs. Yesterday the envirochackos trotted out their kiddies to hold hands along a NJ beach to protest off-shore drilling. Also read in the paper today that the Tax and Cap bill is about to resurrect itself in Washington. And, of course, we have living proof that all off-shore drilling is evil via the ongoing BP mess.

I resist the conspiracy theory that the BP thing was set up by some caball of oil investors, envirowhackos or even our own Usurping Pres. But there is little doubt the demrats are trying to take advantage it. Every thing else I mentioined above, however, is clearly a well orchestated propaganda campaign to clear the way for Tax and Cap.


65 posted on 06/27/2010 7:38:26 AM PDT by dools007
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

NEWSWEEK a.k.a. Leftard Ministry of Propaganda HQ.

If I had some big bucks I’d buy it burn it down.


66 posted on 06/27/2010 10:37:02 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: Bryan24
“If I must choose between the Truth and furthering my agenda, I will choose my agenda. The Truth will reveal us for what we really are.” - Main Stream Media

What liars don't realize is that almost all lies are eventually discovered. Lies just buy a little time. The truth comes out eventually, and then there's hell to pay.

67 posted on 06/27/2010 10:40:04 AM PDT by Reeses (Sowcialist: a voter bought with food stamps)
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To: LS

I think, however, that the ordinary standards of academia do not apply to these guys. You’re right, a lot of mathematics wouldn’t happen if you could be prosecuted for a bad proof.

But then, there are no global social consequences if I make an error in mathematics. Most (non-mathematics) academic science is full of guesswork and claims that are quickly disproven. That’s how most disciplines progress.

Not global warming. Not only do people act on whatever is pronounced, but they ignore any science that contradicts the conventional wisdom.

The bar should be higher for them.


68 posted on 06/27/2010 10:53:35 AM PDT by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for, it matters who takes office.)
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69 posted on 06/27/2010 5:45:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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Sharon Begley is a liberal arts major with a bachelors degree in english lit or some such. Her mind has never been touched with the slightest taint of analytic reasoning or scientific training. She is the perfect "science" writer for Newsweak.
70 posted on 06/27/2010 6:32:16 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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The "investigations" were like obama investigating himself and finding himself not guilty. Both the East Anglia and the Penn State charades were perpetrated by people who had vested interests in finding the fraudsters innocent. Big money was at stake for both institutions, and neither had anything to gain by exposing fraud among their high profile sociopaths.
71 posted on 06/27/2010 6:36:29 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Yeah, I’ve been reading a lot about this, and my original point was only that we have to be scrupulously honest about all of this so they can’t weasel out of the truth. My initial post, which I should have rewritten, was inspired by reading a liberal board where the same story was used to completely refute all the mountains of evidence proving that globalcoolingglobalwarmingclimatechangeAGW is bull. ONE prominent story like this is all they need to say “That big story was FALSE!!!!” It’s not fair, but it’s all the libs and the MSNBC droids need. So again, I do believe WE need to be completely scrupulous with the facts—I ain’t changing that position. (Not that you said anything like that.)


72 posted on 06/27/2010 6:40:20 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
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73 posted on 06/27/2010 7:30:55 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (We don't have a leader in the Oval Office, we have a reader in the Oval Office.)
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74 posted on 06/27/2010 8:32:47 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (70 mph shouldn't be a speed limit; it shoud be a mandate!)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Anthony Watts of Watts Up With That, whom we are honoured to have on a tour of Australia at the moment, has responded to this spurious retraction -

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/06/27/booker-north-and-willis-on-the-ipcc-amazongate-affair/

As he says, “The reason for all this? WWF, (World Wildlife Fund) which all you need to know.”

The forces of evil know they’re on their last legs and are fighting a hard and dirty rear guard action.


75 posted on 06/28/2010 1:59:09 AM PDT by Nipfan (The desire to save humanity is always a false front for the urge to rule it - H L Mencken)
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