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Newspapers Retract 'Climategate' Claims, but Damage Still Done
Newsweek ^
| 06/25/2010
| Sharon Begley
Posted on 06/26/2010 9:28:17 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007
*snip*
...not only did British investigators clear the East Anglia scientist at the center of it all, Phil Jones, of scientific impropriety and dishonesty in April, an investigation at Penn State cleared PSU climatologist Michael Mann of falsifying or suppressing data, intending to delete or conceal e-mails and information, and misusing privileged or confidential information in February.
In perhaps the biggest backpedaling, The Sunday Times of London, which led the media pack in charging that IPCC reports were full of egregious (and probably intentional) errors, retracted its central claimnamely, that the IPCC statement that up to 40 percent of the Amazonian rainforest could be vulnerable to climate change was unsubstantiated. The Times also admitted that it had totally twisted the remarks of one forest expert to make it sound as if he agreed that the IPCC had screwed up, when he said no such thing.
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(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: begley; climategate; globalwarming; michaelmann; sharonbegley
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To: Darkwolf377
41
posted on
06/27/2010 12:13:00 AM PDT
by
Mojave
(Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
To: Crim
AGW is the greatest SCAM in earths history to date.For all your bluster you're not a very good reader, since that was my point.
And what's with getting all huffy about the word "WE", lighten up, Francis.
42
posted on
06/27/2010 12:14:24 AM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
To: Mojave
...and here is the problem: Neither of these articles have anything to do whatsoever with climategate. It is a subtle misdirection, she opens up by talking about climategate then mentions the two article retractions, but there is no link between the two. She's not the only one attempting that misdirection. It's going on right here on FR.
43
posted on
06/27/2010 12:14:58 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
To: Mojave
44
posted on
06/27/2010 12:15:10 AM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
To: Darkwolf377
45
posted on
06/27/2010 12:22:15 AM PDT
by
Crim
(The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
To: Crim
Any of you homos touch my emails...and WE’ll kill ya! :P
46
posted on
06/27/2010 12:23:11 AM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
To: Crim
Any of you homos touch my climate emails...and WE’ll kill ya! :P
47
posted on
06/27/2010 12:24:15 AM PDT
by
Darkwolf377
("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
To: Mojave
To claim that climategate is now rendered false by two newspapers retractions about a separate issue, and to go on and claim that the AR4 actually isnt full of mistakes, is a lie.Thanks for boiling it all down to one bottom line.
48
posted on
06/27/2010 12:28:40 AM PDT
by
TigersEye
("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
To: Ultra Sonic 007
When I believe the media outlets, then I will believe Global Warming...
49
posted on
06/27/2010 12:34:16 AM PDT
by
Deagle
To: Ultra Sonic 007
not only did British investigators clear the East Anglia scientist at the center of it all, Phil Jones, of scientific impropriety and dishonesty in AprilThey cleared the CRU of deliberate scientific malfeasance.
And here's the thing. A civil body with no mandate from the Crown has no competence to declare motive. If they did, their opionion could be held to be libellous.
50
posted on
06/27/2010 12:52:30 AM PDT
by
agere_contra
(Obama did more damage to the Gulf economy in one day than Pemex/Ixtoc did in nine months)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
And it turns out the main inventor of this hoax, algore, is a rapist at heart. NYPost has the audio of the victim’s horrifying experience at the hands of the goron in his hotel room.
51
posted on
06/27/2010 1:38:57 AM PDT
by
rambo316
To: Ultra Sonic 007
I’m not surprised Michael Mann and others have been cleared. The legal system is mostly bought and paid for by the Democratic Party.
52
posted on
06/27/2010 1:59:43 AM PDT
by
TheThinker
(Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenerio at a time.)
To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Newsweak lies and lies and lies and lies. And this article is a lie. Its been an official propaganda arm of the DNC since the early 2000’s.
To: Darkwolf377
54
posted on
06/27/2010 2:21:54 AM PDT
by
Tribune7
(The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
To: Tribune7
When news of PSU self-investigating came out, everyone here predicted that sort of an outcome.
55
posted on
06/27/2010 2:32:58 AM PDT
by
FreedomPoster
(No Representation without Taxation!)
To: steelyourfaith
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posted on
06/27/2010 4:02:41 AM PDT
by
Beowulf
To: Beowulf; proud_yank; Horusra; Thunder90; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Entrepreneur; Darnright; Nipfan; ...
57
posted on
06/27/2010 4:04:24 AM PDT
by
steelyourfaith
(America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
To: Ultra Sonic 007
Get off me you big lummox!
58
posted on
06/27/2010 4:43:05 AM PDT
by
Reeses
(Sowcialist: a voter bought with food stamps)
To: TheThinker
"Im not surprised Michael Mann and others have been cleared. The legal system is mostly bought and paid for by the Democratic Party."
I could be wrong on this, but it was my understanding that Mann was under investigation, not from the "legal system," but from Penn State University on complaints that he deliberately and intentionally fabricated climate change data. The University committee was unable to prove this---which in a university setting is critical. You cannot have legitimate free thought without the ability to make legitimate mistakes. Now, I don't think these were legitimate mistakes, but the bar of proof in an academic setting is vastly higher than in a courtroom. This is what makes the rather watered down language associated with Michael Bellesiles's fraud about guns a few years ago so astounding, that even then they ultimately said, "We think the guy fudged data." In Mann's case, they couldn't prove deliberate fudging---but that in no way suggests his data was "clean."
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posted on
06/27/2010 5:02:11 AM PDT
by
LS
("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
To: Mojave
"She actually only quotes one paper (references another German paper), and here is the problem: Neither of these articles have anything to do whatsoever with climategate. It is a subtle misdirection, she opens up by talking about climategate then mentions the two article retractions, but there is no link between the two...This mistake invalidates the entire point of the article, but the mistakes dont stop there."This was the first thing I noticed too -- adopting the known Eurojourno fraud 'technique' of assigning blame/regret to the cause celebre above the fold, and then substituting after the lead. Bait & switch for the vast majority of good-sheep pEU's who skim the front page and don't read past the jumps.
The real problem here is that this is a trial balloon to restart the RICO scheme known as global warming to provide cover for Bobo's cap-and-charade bill.
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