Posted on 06/25/2010 10:13:56 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
Complain legitimate Americans are lazy, drug users and bad, to justify hiring low wage illegals.
I suspect, based on your own comments regarding young Americans being lazy trash, that you like so many other unscrupulous employers, hire illegal aliens for higher profit gain, regardless of consequences.
It’s a huge lie.
I was in commercial printing. I started as a delivery driver and fill in bindery worker 1n 1985. We had one Mexican who swept the floors and filled in with hand folding, etc. The entire shop floor at that time was white. All the pressmen were journeymen types, many with technical school certs and the like. High school kids worked summers learning to feed and handle paper, and some came to work full time for the company.
Well, this mexican guy got his wife a job too. He said he was legal and had docs, so no problem, right? 10 or 12 years later, she is a bindery lead, in charge of hand work. $15 an hour in 1995. She would be calling in 5-10 girls, (all mexican, of course), to hand fold certain jobs on a moments notice. She had 2 names. The name all her friends and family used, and the one management used.
Over the years, as I moved up into middle management, I would train people to operate machines. The first mexicans that were promoted to a new job were well spoken bilinguals.
I noticed fewer and fewer whites on the floor.
Eventually, maybe 10 or 12 years, is all it took, I had to learn enough spanish to communicate with an operator, because they had no english. When the company went out of business in 2004, the entire floor was hispanic. Many good trade jobs.
I saw first hand how wages were depressed and good jobs taken by illegals. That’s printing. Then there’s construction and various other trades.
They’re not stupid, or inferior, or anything else. They want something better, and are willing to cheat and game the system to get it.
There is no down side to being illegal.
And anticipating the next argument, Oh yes, all of these jobs can be automated. If we can automate cotton picking, we can automate whatever this is...
Spot on.
Second, UC Davis developed machines for picking every row crop and tree crop in California 40 years ago. The limiting factor is cost. But if/when wages go up, cost will no longer be a limiting factor. It'll all be mechanized. All of it.
There are fast food places around here where the person at the drive-thru speaks little to no english.
Americans would take these jobs if the wages were not depressed by the labor glut exacerbated by illegals. It’s called supply and demand. If work needs to be done and there aren’t enough people to do the jobs, employers have no choice but to raise wages sufficiently to attract people to do the work.
Yeah, I know, most of them would wind up in the emergency room if they tried to work one day like I worked when I was twelve years old on days that I wasn’t in school. I used to walk more miles in one summer day than most of them walk in a month now and I KNOW I didn’t have it as tough as those who came a hundred years before me, not even close.
I understand now what Kirk Douglas meant when he said that he was so proud of what Michael had accomplished even though he did not have the “great advantage” of being brought up dirt poor as Kirk was.
Your post was eye opening!
I rode a machine probably two days in my time.
I walked all but two days of detasseling in all my years. However, I liked the machine.
Today (March 3 2010) at approximately 7:30 am, a mere 45 minutes after the first shift bell rang, warehouse workers evacuated the SC2 (Supply Chains Company) warehouse after hearing a rumor or Immigration Control planning to make a visit. About two thirds of the warehouse workers up and clocked out after hearing this rumor in hopes of dodging the whole scenario all together. This only left a couple hundred people left working in the whole facility. SC2 is a company that is contracted by the "Big Yellow (Caterpillar)" as a parts packaging facility.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/peoria-il/TG3JIS1ED7BUF39G2
Unemployment check ping!
I don’t have too many born and bred ‘Americans’ knocking on my door looking for work. Exactly what jobs do you see illegals doing that you think there is a long line for? I’m sorry, but unskilled, low education service jobs like lawncare, farm workers, etc... are never going to be high paying jobs. People will simply not get their lawn cut by someone else when it becomes too expensive. Sorry, but if you want a good job with good pay, you need to contribute something above ordinary.
I don’t have too many born and bred ‘Americans’ knocking on my door looking for work. Exactly what jobs do you see illegals doing that you think there is a long line for? I’m sorry, but unskilled, low education service jobs like lawncare, farm workers, etc... are never going to be high paying jobs. People will simply not get their lawn cut by someone else when it becomes too expensive. Sorry, but if you want a good job with good pay, you need to contribute something above ordinary.
I don’t have too many born and bred ‘Americans’ knocking on my door looking for work. Exactly what jobs do you see illegals doing that you think there is a long line for? I’m sorry, but unskilled, low education service jobs like lawncare, farm workers, etc... are never going to be high paying jobs. People will simply not get their lawn cut by someone else when it becomes too expensive. Sorry, but if you want a good job with good pay, you need to contribute something above ordinary.
Ya, it says there are a hell of a lot of stupid, or naive easily led, gullible Americans, just like you.
Careful there, dragnet2, you sound alot like a liberal who just resorts to name calling and foul language when you don’t have anything intelligent to say.
A guest worker program would make it alot easier to separate the people here who are working and the people just mooching off the system and dealing.
Uh, lets see....Are you suggesting that millions of illegal aliens in the LA area are all simply mowing lawns with several million more picking berries along the Long Beach Freeway?
wow....
Once again, for slow people like yourself....
They drive trucks, work in manufacturing, operate machines, run the restaurant food industry, have taken over construction industry, operate forklifts, run warehouses....drive cabs, landscaping firms, some run photography studios, mechanics, hotel industry etc etc, etc....
Geezzz...
When I tell people there are millions of illegals in LA, yet not a berry field in sight.....Well, that should be a clue.....lol
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