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Sort of a Capt. Obvious post to people employed in the marine trades or in the oil industry, but there's a lot of intellectual masturbation going on out here in this subject. Thought I'd share a little truth on what's happening in the real world.
1 posted on 06/19/2010 9:44:33 PM PDT by capt.P
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Well that’s comforting to know. I mean, the clean-up is going so well...

:eyes roll:


2 posted on 06/19/2010 9:48:29 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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So the questions is are there enough skimmers out there doing the job or do we need more. I would think we need all we can get.


3 posted on 06/19/2010 9:51:23 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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So, it’s just because the present administration itself won’t allow/accept the expertise and equipment offered.


4 posted on 06/19/2010 9:51:45 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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That doesn’t mean the Zer0 admin didn’t use the act as an excuse...


6 posted on 06/19/2010 9:53:59 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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The American Maritime Industry has nothing to do with the situation - O-Dumb-oh refused to waive the Jones Act; it’s up to him, not the farging American Maritime Industry. As a consequence of the Messiah’s divine guidance, European countries which have skimmers were prevented from providing aid.

There oughta be a filter against shills on FR. There are way too many dumbocrats out plying the internet waters!


7 posted on 06/19/2010 9:54:17 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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I thought the Dutch had specialty ships that we don’t have.


8 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:09 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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So the reason why 0 turned down the offered help had nothing to do with the Jones Act?

Anyway thanks for the info.

9 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:36 PM PDT by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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Since US ships are getting up every drop of the spill.....


10 posted on 06/19/2010 9:55:38 PM PDT by eddie willers
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OMSA is a labor organization and not to be taken as a credible source. They are being dishonest by focussing on the Jones Act, because the Jones Act is only one of many cabotage laws which govern coastal shipping activities.

If you want to buy into the union thug story, be my guest. These a-holes are lying.

11 posted on 06/19/2010 9:57:12 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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Some of the foreign vessels are better equipped to complete certain aspects of the clean up than US ships. I am sure we will use American vessels when the jobs call for it...but what is wrong with help to sped up the process and borrow on a little expertise in some areas we are not familiar with?
12 posted on 06/19/2010 9:57:48 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/06/breaking-obama-administration-only-accepted-help-from-5-countries-out-of-28-that-offered-assistance/

As the Gulf Coast shores continue to be coated with crude, the Obama Administration has only accepted assistance from 5 countries out of 28 who offered to assist the US with the cleanup.

And there’s lots of skimmers and boom on that list that are “under consideration”


14 posted on 06/19/2010 10:00:24 PM PDT by digger48
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We should be using, or negotiating to use, every capable vessel to contain and control the spill regardless of the flag it flies under.

The idea that there are sufficient US flag vessels to contain the spill is ludicrous on the face of it because if that were true, there would be no oil washing up on American shores.

I am not sure exactly what is going on here, but I am sure that this article is more self-serving than not.


15 posted on 06/19/2010 10:00:41 PM PDT by Ronin
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I have never heard of this magazine, so I checked the info at the site:

http://www.marinelog.com/DOCS/2hist.html

A long history.

Some here are saying that because there is some union connection this is all automatically suspect, but it seems to me the point of the piece you posted is that the Jones Act ISN'T preventing the use of foreign vessels.

If that's true, I don't see how this is some "CYA" article for "The Unions". What it seems to be saying is that Obama has no excuse for using any foreign vessels.

If this is the case, this is good information to know, and thanks for posting it.

16 posted on 06/19/2010 10:11:41 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("You seem to believe that stupidity is a virtue. Why is that so?"-Flight of the Phoenix)
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So then the Commander in Chief is an idiot!


25 posted on 06/19/2010 11:02:58 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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Well, no.

Read all their words: They never said it was waived - only that there is a procedure to waive the act. They never mentioned that the three mile rule affects port entry to dump the collected oil.

The OMSA (union and owners) is covering up for NOT waiving he Jones Act.


27 posted on 06/19/2010 11:19:51 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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As I understand it, current EPA Regulations are preventing the Dutch Skimmers from operating in the Gulf. Those ships scoop up the Oil mixed with Seawater. After the separation process, the Seawater is expelled overboard with “some” Oil still mixed in it. Most of the Oil is separated in the skimming process, but not all.

The EPA forbids the Seawater from being dumped back overboard if ANY Oil is present, thus requiring all the liquid being skimmed to be stored on board the vessel to be processed back in port.

Stupid is as stupid does.

28 posted on 06/19/2010 11:23:21 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Obama, proving Hillary right that it takes a Village Idiot.)
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Bullshit.


29 posted on 06/19/2010 11:57:55 PM PDT by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompitence..)
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Whew, what a relief. Here I was waiting for a disaster to happen om the Gulf Coast shores and all the time the OMSA had things under control. I’m relieved at their explanation.......er, BS.


31 posted on 06/20/2010 12:05:44 AM PDT by Dapper 26
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This is a cover-your-ass statement by the trade organization which benefits from keeping foreign ships out of US waters. Therefore, it is also an apologist for Obama’s failure here to do what George Bush did promptly during Katrina, WAIVE the Jones Act.

Even this apology has the insane statement that “no one has asked for a waiver.” Any administrator, even a President, should have noticed from Day One that we would need thousands of skimmers, and that Holland and many other places had offered theirs for use.

Now, sixty days after the original explosion, this Administration is “considering whether to use the Dutch skimmers,” while the oil is now arriving in the wetlands and on the beaches where it is killing the fishing and tourism industries respectively.

This is a biased statement from a biased source, designed to provide cover for Obama’s errors.

John / Billybob


32 posted on 06/20/2010 3:08:57 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.TheseAretheTimes.us)
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So....why are there not enough skimmers then? Or is the cleanup pretty much over?


34 posted on 06/20/2010 5:19:49 PM PDT by cookcounty ("Today's White House reporters seem one ball short of a ping pong scrimmage.")
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