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1 posted on 06/16/2010 6:48:32 AM PDT by opentalk
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Hugo Chavez and his court jesters don’t need to follow legal proceedure. Sorry, I should have written Obama!


38 posted on 06/16/2010 7:08:16 AM PDT by WellyP
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Why didn’t they ask this question ages ago when our tax money was used to bail out the global thieving central banks?


41 posted on 06/16/2010 7:08:37 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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Obama has his boot on the neck of Americans.
42 posted on 06/16/2010 7:09:48 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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I hope BP tells obama, NO,and walks out.

It is way past time to reign this son of a gun in.

46 posted on 06/16/2010 7:10:49 AM PDT by Kakaze (Exterminate Islamofacism and apologize for nothing....except not doing it sooner!)
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§311(c)(1) The President shall institute means for the removal of an oil discharge and mitigation or prevention of the threat of a discharge (1) into the navigable water of the U.S. or adjoining shorelines; (2) into or on the waters of the exclusive economic zone; or (3) that may affect natural resources of the U.S. In doing so the President has the authority to make any arrangements for removal or prevention, direct removal actions, and remove or destroy a vessel releasing or that has the threat of releasing.

§311(c)(2) The President shall direct all Federal, State, and private actions to remove a discharge or mitigate or prevent the threat of a discharge from onshore or offshore facilities which is determined to be a substantial threat to the public health or welfare of the United States.

§311(j)(1)(A) The President is required to establish methods and procedures for removal of discharged oil and hazardous substances as part of the National Response System.

§311(j)(1)(C) The President is authorized to issue regulations establishing procedures, methods, equipment, and other requirements to prevent discharges of oil from vessels and facilities.

§311(j)(4) The President is authorized to establish Area Committees. These committees will prepare Area Contingency Plans that detail methods and procedures for responding to a worst case discharge, including the division of responsibilities among various authorities in a response. Each Area Committee will submit this plan to the President for approval.

§311(j)(5) The President is required to establish regulations for facility and vessel response plans.

NOPE....not in there....

Don’t forget there is an already existing Oil Liability Trust Fund


47 posted on 06/16/2010 7:11:53 AM PDT by EBH (Our First Right...."it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it,")
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‘Where does the president get the lawful power to order any private-sector company—BP or any other—that it must surrender its money?’

Simple - from his ideological predecessor, Lenin.


51 posted on 06/16/2010 7:16:23 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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Shouldn't the Brits consider it an act of war if numnuts seizes A British company's assets?

I'm not sure which country I'd be willing to fight for in that instance.

52 posted on 06/16/2010 7:16:42 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (No Romney,No Mark Kirk (Illinois), not now, not ever!)
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It says so on page 145 of the Communist Manifesto.


54 posted on 06/16/2010 7:16:55 AM PDT by reaganrevolutionin2010
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The gangsta prez has his jackboots on, and he is kicking arse.


57 posted on 06/16/2010 7:19:23 AM PDT by pallis
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Noone will challenge his authority to extort money from BP.

“the account must and will be administered by an independent third party.”

Begs the question, which of his union pals or Chi town thugs will be in charge of this fund? Then, how much should BP expect to pay them for their extortion “services” on demand?


61 posted on 06/16/2010 7:23:16 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (Freedom Watch: fight for freedom with everything you have.)
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Obama is reputedly a lawyer. He should have some awareness of the legal ramifications of what he is doing. He either doesn’t know what he’s doing in this case, or doesn’t care.


62 posted on 06/16/2010 7:24:25 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Democrats = authoritarian socialists)
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Constitution? Oh...THAT! The author doesn’t seem to understand. That Constitution thingy is just so...so PRE- Hussein!!!


64 posted on 06/16/2010 7:25:16 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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The Marxists insist that foreign terrorists get complete Constitutional protection of course. They made the point the Johns Adams defended a uniformed British soldier for his conduct during the Boston Massacre.
But the ends always justify the means, this is where the Marxist is consistent. This “escrow” account will be nothing more than a Democrat slush fund used for political payoffs. Might as well deposit the money directly into ACORN and OFA since he has already shredded the Constitution.


65 posted on 06/16/2010 7:27:00 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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You guys are taking 0bama way too seriously. Last night was bluster from a Chicago thug. He was mainly saying it for effect, though insofar as he can do anything, he will; and there is much a POTUS can do, legally.
He’s telling BP to put up cash or else he will make life uncomfortable for them. He’s aiming a pistol at their feet and telling them to dance, or else.
But the main reason is to maintain his mojo. If he loses that, nothing else matters. He needs to come off sounding tough, magical, powerful.
It would also help him if BP were already making plans to do what he’s demanding.


68 posted on 06/16/2010 7:32:38 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (STOP the Tyrananny State.)
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What do you expect from a Fascist-Marxist?


70 posted on 06/16/2010 7:35:28 AM PDT by green iguana
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He doesn’t care about authority — he doesn’t have to. The necessities of our economy and life in general: finance, farming, energy, education, transportation, etc... have all been woven around a web of so called oversight under the guise of protection and safety to the point where rights and legal authority no longer have any meaning. We all have a choice to cooperate or end up on the fringe, unable to function — be a slave or be destitute. That is the choice BP is now facing.

As we are witnessing, the so called safety and protections that supposedly come from government and regulation are mythical. They safeguard nothing and guarantee failure by tearing down incentives for ethical behavior and good citizenship while participants in the sham line their pockets, willfully ignorant of the consequences to the economic and physical well being of the nation.

This condition is not unlike the kind of economic slavery experienced by the founders who had a unique perspective on how and why politics and gorvernment enables mercantilism, then becomes it, and what it does once all integrity and honor is stripped away. It’s all written in the Declaration of Independence. Read the whole document and we can see what our furture will be if we do nothing to alter it. They left all of the to answers this predicament in plain sight because they also understood human nature. They saw the events of today out of the understanding that what they had created may not last despite their best efforts to prevent it — those efforts only have meaning as long as they live in the hearts of “We, the People”.

Here’s a quote from Thomas Jefferson’s Notes on Virginia: Query 17:

“But is the spirit of the people an infallible, a permanent reliance? Is it government? Is this the kind of protection we receive in return for the rights we give up? Besides, the spirit of the times may alter, will alter. Our rulers will become corrupt, our people careless. A single zealot may commence persecutor, and better men be his victims. It can never be too often repeated, that the time for fixing every essential right on a legal basis is while our rulers are honest, and ourselves united. From the conclusion of this war we shall be going down hill. It will not then be necessary to resort every moment to the people for support. They will be forgotten, therefore, and their rights disregarded. They will forget themselves, but in the sole faculty of making money, and will never think of uniting to effect a due respect for their rights. The shackles, therefore, which shall not be knocked off at the conclusion of this war, will remain on us long, will be made heavier and heavier, till our rights shall revive or expire in a convulsion.”


72 posted on 06/16/2010 7:39:59 AM PDT by dajeeps
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All, excellant questions.


79 posted on 06/16/2010 8:32:59 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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Here's the full text of President Obama's speech about the BP disaster/gusher in the Gulf of Mexico ...

Obama's Remarks To Nation On Oil Spill [Full Text]


80 posted on 06/16/2010 8:36:29 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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The answer is, Obama has no constitutional authority to demand money from BP outside of the court process...but the simple fact is the US Constitution has been discarded through what is essentially, a coup. The federal government is no longer valid and the US is dead...it just doesn't realize it yet.

I guess you could say that the United States is much like the Bruce Willis character in The Sixth Sense.

Those who are paying attention are like the boy...I see a dead nation, but it doesn't realize it's dead.

81 posted on 06/16/2010 9:01:49 AM PDT by highlander_UW (Education is too important to leave in the hands of the government.)
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Kon-Sty-Two-Shun?

That sounds like a fancy term for racism!

/sarc


85 posted on 06/16/2010 10:47:17 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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