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Commentary: Obama’s Speech Raises Question: Where Does He Get the Authority
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| June 15, 2010
| Terence P. Jeffrey
Posted on 06/16/2010 6:48:32 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Honestly I can’t see that he’s done a damn thing other than attempt to sieze control of BP and even that isn’t about fixing the problem, its about grabbing the cash.
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posted on
06/16/2010 6:55:05 AM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
To: opentalk
Hmmmm... I’m having a hard time figuring this one out. Should BP pays billions for this major disaster they caused or should the American taxpayers?
Obama has ways of getting BP to kick in billions into a damages fund, into escrow. I like that idea of BP paying rather than me and other taxpayers. Call me silly.
This still has to pan out out and we’ll know more in a few days. Maybe BP will agree to nothing as far as putting billions into an escrow fund
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posted on
06/16/2010 6:55:55 AM PDT
by
dennisw
(History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
To: cripplecreek
Good reason why Brits are upset with him.
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posted on
06/16/2010 6:56:29 AM PDT
by
opentalk
To: opentalk
This is what you get from a Marxist President who has no conception or idea of the principle of private property and private capital.
When you have Zero experience as a leader of anything or as a manager this is the result.
Obama is at heart a Chavez wannabe or at his worst the American version of Joe Stalin in the making.
Dangerous no matter what.
To: gunnyg
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posted on
06/16/2010 6:57:15 AM PDT
by
listenhillary
(You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
To: All
On a similar thread last night I commented that while Obama rips the Constitution to shreds over and over again no one calls him on it legally....just with words and questions.
Therefore, he keeps on getting away with getting away with it, right?
Leni
To: dennisw
It is the same pattern as GM, Chrysler bankruptcies. An authoritarian government response.
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posted on
06/16/2010 6:59:40 AM PDT
by
opentalk
To: listenhillary
He taught “Constitutional Law III” which with him as the teacher only dealt with the 14th Amendment. Obama has proven, both in the final exam test questions he chose as a law instructor and in his decrees as community-organizer-in-chief that he knows nothing about anything else in our Constitution.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:01:38 AM PDT
by
Pollster1
(Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
To: dennisw
The cost of this disaster is at this time incalculable. My feeling is that no company including BP has enough cash to pay for this.
Now in the course of normal legal proceedings judgments can be handed to BP, assets attached, etc. for payment of damages.
Worst case for BP is to lose control of it's U.S. assets which can and would be sold for probably fire sale prices to pay out what that will cover.
Everything else in going to be on the Taxpayer.
To: opentalk
BP is obviously going to have to put up some big bucks to reimburse the people of the gulf impacted by this disaster. However, I suspect they will tell Obama that they will not hand the money over to a third party, and will disburse it themselves. Once that position is made public, what does Obama do about it? If they do hand the money over to “an independent third party” and the people who should receive the funds are stiffed (a very likely possibility), what does Obama do then? He can't blame BP at that point (although he'll try), since he was the one who insisted on doing it this way in the first place.
To: ilovesarah2012
True. Other Presidents have used Executive Orders in questionable ways and were never challenged by Congress. I remember that Clinton implemented portions of the Kyoto Treaty in executive Orders when Congress didn’t ratify it.
Of course the others haven’t done it to such an extent as the current President. This, to me, is over reaching and an egregious misuse of the Executive Order.
Makes one wonder if he needs Congress to raise taxes. An Executive Order would impel the IRS to collect what ever rate he stipulates. Using this move against BP as a basis.
What’s next?
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:03:47 AM PDT
by
K-oneTexas
(I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
To: opentalk
He’s not just the U.S. President, he’s Supreme Ruler of the World. Just ask him, he’ll tell you.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:04:08 AM PDT
by
MissTed
(I wondered why the baseball kept getting bigger.. Then it hit me.)
To: dennisw
This is a trivial question ~ the well is on leased land. The devices associated with the well, e.g. the drill pipes and so forth are fixtures that become the property of the landlord. The oil company receives the right to pump oil provided it pays its leasing feas and royalties on the oil.
There's nothing at all remarkable about this arrangement.
So, where does Obama get authority over the leaseholder? Well, I'd look no further than the leasing agreement ~ there's gotta' be some incredible boilerplate in there Fur Shur.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:05:34 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: reaganaut1
BP should tell Obama to produce his long form birth certificate and then we will talk about an escrow account.
To: opentalk
Divine right of kings...? /sarc.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:05:49 AM PDT
by
mrmeyer
("When brute force is on the march, compromise is the red carpet." Ayn Rand)
To: Captain Peter Blood
What company would dare to ever drill for oil off of our coasts?
Near death of the nuclear industry, now the domestic oil industry. Who will benefit? Who will pay?
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:06:11 AM PDT
by
listenhillary
(You might be a modern LIBERAL if you read 1984 & said "YEAH! That's the world that I want!")
To: opentalk
Obama’s a thug. If the BP execs don’t fork over the money, he’ll kick their asses, Chicago style.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:07:53 AM PDT
by
Menehune56
("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius, (170 BC - 86 BC))
To: opentalk
Hugo Chavez and his court jesters don’t need to follow legal proceedure. Sorry, I should have written Obama!
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:08:16 AM PDT
by
WellyP
To: Captain Peter Blood
A great deal of the cost can be assigned to the taxpayers through simple application of the Fifth Amendment.
It's pretty much the case that Obama has personally mismanaged the situation and allowed entirely too much oil to leak.
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:08:23 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: listenhillary
And,,,he might add,,,don;t you ever forget it!
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posted on
06/16/2010 7:08:24 AM PDT
by
gunnyg
(Surrounded By The Enemy Within--~ Our "Novembers" Are Behind Us...If Ya Can Grok That!)
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