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He did not suck as a candidate...

81% of Ca GOP voters disagree with you.

No, it means that 81% thought another candidate was better, or they trusted Plain to make their choice for them. Their vote was not a referendum on his campaign. It was a referendum on who the voters thought was best for the position.

As I told you, I have associates who voted for Fiorina even though they thought DeVore was the better man, solely based on Plain's endorsement.

Once again into the ethereal. Tom Campbell never came close to taking the lead.

Facts are hard to ignore but you seem able to do it at will.

(may 6 2010 the day of Palin's endorsement) : The TPM Poll Average gives Campbell a lead of 28.7%, followed by Fiorina at 20.2%, and the even more conservative state Rep. Chuck DeVore with 12.4%. http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/05/palin-endorses-carly-fiorina-in-ca-sen-primary.php

Also in the GOP race is former Rep. Tom Campbell, who has maintained a steady lead over his opponents in recent polls. The Republican nominee will take on Sen. Barbara Boxer in the general election. http://www.wibw.com/nationalnews/headlines/93070059.html

Fiorina -- an adviser on the McCain-Palin ticket in 2008 -- is essentially in a two-person race with former congressman Tom Campbell, who is leading in most polls. DeVore is trailing far behind. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/05/08/palin-stands-fiorina-endorsement-amid-backlash-supporters/

Okay, great. You proved me wrong on a minor point, and proved yourself wrong on the main point at the same time. LOL Nice work. Here's the final vote.

0,398,742 21.6% Tom Campbell
0,354,854 19.2% Chuck DeVore
1,044,637 56.6% Carly Fiorina
0,016,107 00.8% Tim Kalemkarian
0,034,461 01.8% Al Ramirez

Plain was able to help move Fiorina 36.6%. If she had put a little effort into it, DeVore could easily have won. Thank you very much for that research.

As for DeVore trailing by a large margin, he was only trailing Fiorina by eight percent at that point. Look where Campbell wound up. You're a laugh a minute.

LOL, look Sparky, if DeVore had taken the lead on his own, why would he need Plain's support? You're being nonsensical.

who said anything about taking the lead? Getting out of last place, having a surge getting into second place, having a 5 or 10 pt bounce any of those things would have shown him connecting. Instead DeVore stayed in last place throughout the campaign. that is not connecting. Sparky

He was able to raise his percentage by seven percent without help. That would have been only three percent behind Fiorina, and nine behind Campbell without any help. And that's only if that seven percent were not deducted from either of them. Five points from Campbell and two points from Fiorina would have just about made it a dead heat. And with Plain's support, he could easily have gotten the nomination to represent the party. Can't tell you how much I appreciate the research.

Campbell had the draw of an incumbent, and Fiorina had her own funds. He did not have the funding either of them had. He got 19% of the vote, and that's not too shaby considering he didn't have adequate funding. Without funding you can't execute get out the vote efforts.

First off 19% sucks. that means 81% of the people do not like you/did not vote for you. If you get 19% in a primary or a general you suck and you lose. Second you explain why he sucked as a candidate. He had no money, no way to raise money, no way to get his message out. He had no backing. In short he could not win even with a Palin endorsement Carly would have buried him in ads and get out the vote. Anyone with a lick of smarts could see that. Why back a 100% loser when there is a possible winner that agrees with you 80% of the time?

First of all, 81% voting for others mean nothing more than that folks knew more about the others. Geez, you really don't know jack do you. And if you are the rep in November, your whole party votes for you, because you are the go to guy. The Democrat isn't. You obviously don't realize that it's less likey for the Leftist Fiorina to get Conservative votes, than for DeVore to get all Republican votes.

Leaders take a stand on principle

ROFL.....Obama has taken a stand on principles. I don't rate him a leader. Leader's lead, they make the hard decisions needed to advance their core principles given the facts on the ground. They do not stick blindly to ideology and purity tests. Leaders get the job done with the tools and options they are given. they create opportunity where none exists to further their goals and beliefs. they compromise when needed, they bend when called for but they do not break and they complete the mission.

Okay, cheap shot with regard to Obama since neither of us is voting for the man. And cheap shot two because you simply cannot fathom that putting another Olympia Snowe in the Senate of the United States does not advance our agenda. It advances the Democrats agenda. And response after response, you continue to herald the brilliance of putting another RINO into the U.S. Senate. It's quite clear which side you're on, and it isn't the side of Conservatism.

To affect our agenda favorably, you have to put someone in who will actually vote for it. Fiorina won't. You're still cheering because another Ted Kennedy Conservative may enter the Senate. If you wil, another Boxer Conservative...

Ideologues stand firm on principles even when that stand will destroy their principles in the end. Obama and you are ideologues, Palin is a leader.

And turn coats will blow any which way in the wind. They will put their finger up, decide which way the wind is blowing, and vote in Liberals(R) or Republicans(D) because they haven't the tools to realize it kills us every time it has been done. Plain, is no leader. She is a great talker, as long as that shrill voice is under control.

As far as Palin's timing. It was perfect and defeated the liberal and won the Ca primary for the most conservative candidate that could win. Plain's timing was as ill timed as it could be. At a time when she had two choices to back, she backed the most Liberal person on our side. She helped raise the percentage of Fiorina by 36%. If Plain had backed DeVore, she could have put him in the winner's circle. But Plain didn't see any advantage to that. Fiorina has nothing in her past that qualifies her as a Conservative on any point. And Plain couldn't figure that out for herself.

No, it means that 81% thought another candidate was better, or they trusted Plain to make their choice for them. Their vote was not a referendum on his campaign. It was a referendum on who the voters thought was best for the position. As I told you, I have associates who voted for Fiorina even though they thought DeVore was the better man, solely based on Plain's endorsement.

hell I thought he was most likely the better choice. no way I would have voted for him. He was losing and at that point a vote for Devora was a vote for Campbell. And 81% thought his campaign sucked enough not to vote for him. It is two sides of the same coin. If you think someones campaign is better or you think theirs sucks. The fact is 81% of the Ca GOP thought his campaign was worse then the the others. As a voter for deVore you are a small minority of a minority. Yet you bitterly cling to the idea that if only more true believers were around devore could have been a contender. very sad.

minor point?

that was the entire reason for and timing of Palin's endorsement, the entire reason for the fact that many went with Carly over Devore to ensure that Campbell lost. Minor point? you would think its a minor point because to fully understand how major of a point it is. your entire argument would fall flat on its face. Unbelievable now you are just being willfully ignorant to the facts. Palin did not move the needle 36.6 pts. Palin plus 2million in ad buys plus the fact that DeVore remained stuck in last place moved the needle 36.6pts. Was Devore hiding $2 million in petty cash somewhere? Did Carly raise $2million off of Palin's endorsement? (not by a long shot)

the rest of your post is nonsense. the last 14 months. Who has been better for the conservative agenda Snowe or Boxer? that's right Snowe has closed ranks and voted with the conservative leadership 95% of the time against Obama while boxer has voter 100% for Obama. Now under the liberal bush Snowe voted liberal. shocker right there. Go figure. I wonder what made her change her voting record. Could it be a leadership that understands the way back to power is stopping Obama. you can not fathom that the footsoldiers views are meaningless in congress. It is the leadership that determines how the footsoldiers vote. the last 14 months show this on the dem and GOp side. the snowes are voting 100% conservative and the blue dogs are voting 100% liberal. Because the leadership tells them too. DeVore would vote the way the leadership told him too. If he wanted the nice committee appointment, the nice office, the nice staff, the perks etc. Devore would like Carly be a loyal footsoldier to the GOP leadership. It is the way DC works. Sure he would have shifted in small ways things in a slightly more conservative direction but when the chips are down he would have voted the way the leadership told him too. Just like Carly is going to do. that is reality.

turn coats? So Reagan was a turn coat? You ideologues make me puke. Following your logic would get us 19% of the vote every time. The goal is to advance the conservative agenda not to burn Rinos at the stake. You wouldn't know a leader if you saw one. Next you will be telling me Hunter will come out of no where and lead us to the promise land.