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So you admit the only way devore could have won in deep blue Ca is a Palin endorsement. What I actually said was this, you stated DeVore couldn't win, and I responed, "We'll never know. If Palin had backed him, and he lost, you could say DeVore couldn't win." So I didn't say Palin could have won him the election. I merely said we will never know if he could have won with her help or not. There's a real difference.

I'm surprised you give her that much power. I didn't.

Personally I think Palin has power but I don't think Palin was the only reason Carly won. It helped alot but the 2 million ad buy also helped and that was something Devore never had. I'm not sure if it was the reason Fiorina won either. I will say that every percent Palin was responsible for pulling over to the Fiorina side, was a percent not avilable to DeVore.

If Palin pulled in an additional 10% to Fiorina's cause, that meant that DeVore had to pick up an additional 10% plus from somewhere else. You know, even a five percent tilt can create a 10% spread. If Palin was responsible for 10% going to Fiorina, that's actually a 20% tilt. I say this, because when Fiorina gets 10%, that 10% has to come from somewhere. Fiorina's total goes up by 10%, and DeVore's total goes down by 10%. That's 20%. If they both start out at 50%, they would wind up 60/40. If they start out 60/40, a ten percent swing to DeVore could put them even.

I'm not going to say Palin cost DeVore the election, but it is possible she did.

Palin endorsed Carly because unlike you Palin does not tilt at windmills. You can parse it any way you like, but another way of looking at it is that it doesn't matter to Palin who she supports, as long as she supports someone who can do her a favor later on. Obviously that meets your standard as a Conservative. It doesn't meet mine.

If it was a good standard, it would be the greatest thing in the world to support Olympia Snowe, Lindsey Graham, Arlen Spector, and a myriad of other Leftists in our ranks. How do you get good policy then? They vote against you. And now, Carly Fiorina may get that chance. She can vote against us for six years.

If you talk the talk, walk the walk.

Palin understood devore had no chance even with her endorsement. he ran a terrible campaign and lost by 40pts I doubt if Reagan came back from the grave and endorsed Devore he could have won

0,398,742 21.6% Tom Campbell
0,354,854 19.2% Chuck DeVore
1,044,637 56.6% Carly Fiorina
0,016,107 00.8% Tim Kalemkarian
0,034,461 01.8% Al Ramirez

Saying that DeVore ran a terrible campaign against Fiorina is like saying a person like Palin could actually run a reasonable campaign against Donald Trump. It's just obnoxious, to make the assumption.

He lost by 37.4%, almost to the degree you mentioned. Palin would have had to endorse him, spend some time in California, cut commercials hawking him in the local Conservative talk radio markets for months on end, and appear with him on FoxNews a few times. Hell, she wouldn't do that for anyone would she.

In Southern California we have radio station KFI. These guys aren't always on our side, but they have been very good to fiscal Conservatives. And I am certain they would have championed DeVore. They may have. I know they blistered Campbell. With her endorsement, this guy could have gotten traction. Her endorsement could very well have turned this around.

BTW, John and Ken have folks on as guests. When they do they shower them with praise and compare them to the other people running, very favorably.

Could DeVore have won with her endorsement. We'll never know.

We will never know? Not even Palin could make a 40pt(37.ish) swing. I support Palin but I know she isn't a Goddess. geez we are talking about 37ish pts here. Devore could not win. If Palin would have moved into the state and changed her name to chuck Devore she still would have not been able to make up a 37pt swing in CA.

Now maybe in a red state (like Sc) or even a purple state like Minn she might have moved the needle by double digits but 40pts? not in CA.

Devore had no money, he had no statewide campaign, he never connected with the base. He kept his small voter base and never broke out from that.

If not for the Carly endorsement it could very well be Campbell vs Boxer and how well would Campbell advance ANY part of the conservative agenda. he was pro-abortion, anti-gun rights, cuddle islamists. anti-isreal, pro spending, higher taxes. etc..

the risk was too great to allow that possibility to occur. I wished devore would have taken off he didn't. reality is a bi*ch at times.