You’re not posting about spending “your own” money; you’re posting about Rush Limbaugh spending his money!!
And you’re not posting about Elton John’s activism, you’re posting about his lifestyle. My point remains—Elton John would like men whether he was rich and famous or poverty stricken and anonymous. So giving him money doesn’t support his sexual proclivities. He’s going to be gay whether he has money or not!
Neil Diamond is a quiet, non-flamboyant gay man, but by your logic you wouldn’t hire him either. So it’s about lifestyle, not “activism” no matter how you spin it.
My convictions about conservatism are this: We want limited government, limited spending and an abundance of freedom. But yet many so-called “conservatives” love to stick their noses into other peoples’ private business. That doesn’t make any sense to me.
...and Frank Sinatra was a known wife beater which means that anyone that bought his music supported spousal abuse.
Neil Diamond is NOT gay.
I posted that it's my opinion that paying openly gay people enables their lifestyle and gives a louder voice to the gay agenda!!!
And you’re not posting about Elton John’s activism, you’re posting about his lifestyle.
It was an analogy. Has every thing got to be pointed out to you in 'great specificity and detail'?
but by your logic you wouldn’t hire him either.
That's a fact, jack, so sue me.
So it’s about lifestyle, not “activism” no matter how you spin it.
It's about both which are one in the same in most cases!!!
Since you're so thick let me draw you a map:
I pay FagA Xdollars to sing love songs at my wedding.
FagA cashes check and calls FagB, who is a congressman in a northeast state and promises to give FagB Xdollars if he'll push a bill to legalize same sex marriage.
FagB agrees, takes money and gets legislation passed.
My money just helped pass legislation that I'm opposed to.
But yet many so-called “conservatives” love to stick their noses into other peoples’ private business.
First and foremost, we live in a society based on a Constitution that was based on Christian values and morals. As of yet, we don't live in a european type secular society, which many of you so-called 'conservatives' seem to prefer.
Second, the last I checked, homosexuality is still considered immoral by the vast majority of Christians but it appears that you secular 'conservatives' are willing to chuck our Christian values and join the progressives on a lot of social issues which you consider to be 'outdated'.
And that, little girl, doesn't make any sense to me.
Finally, the stinking homo's aren't keeping it their private business!! They're putting their perversion in everybodies face including our kids in order to be accepted as 'normal', which it appears that some of you FReepers already do. My conservatism is opposed to this. How about yours?
“You’re not posting about spending “your own” money; you’re posting about Rush Limbaugh spending his money.”
That’s right, and we’re discussing how a person should act, with this incident as a starting point.
“And you’re not posting about Elton John’s activism, you’re posting about his lifestyle.”
1. Nonsense. If he had had the common decency to keep his practices private, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion. It is only his activism—his insistence on shoving it in everyone’s face—that gave rise to this conversation in the first place.
2. Homosexuality is not a “lifestyle.” Same-sex attraction disorder in men is a serious disorder that manifests as a compulsion to engage in pseudo-sexual practices (correctly described by G. K. Chesterton as “loathsome perversions”) with other males, combined with a fixation on youth.
“My point remains”
Your point remains irrelevant. The question is not whether riches support his SSAD, but whether endorsing the lie that SSAD is harmless and healthy.
“He’s going to be gay whether he has money or not!
“Neil Diamond is a quiet, non-flamboyant gay man”
Don’t think so.
“but by your logic you wouldn’t hire him either.”
You don’t understand the logic. If no one knew Elton John had SSAD, hiring him would do no harm.
“So it’s about lifestyle, not “activism” no matter how you spin it.”
Or rather, no, it isn’t.
“My convictions about conservatism are this: We want limited government, limited spending and an abundance of freedom.”
Well, hang in there. Here are some quotations.
John Adams
You have rights antecedent to all earthly governments; rights that cannot be repealed or restrained by human laws; rights derived from the Great Legislator of the Universe.
Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
Edmund Burke
Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites
—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;
—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;
—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.
St. John Chrysostom
He who is not angry, whereas he has cause to be, sins. For unreasonable patience is the hotbed of many vices, it fosters negligence, and incites not only the wicked but even the good to do wrong.
Will and Ariel Durant
Does history warrant the conclusion that religion is necessary to morality—that a natural ethic is too weak to withstand the savagery that lurks under civilization and emerges in our dreams, crimes, and wars? ... There is no significant example in history, before our time, of a society successfully maintaining moral life without the aid of religion.
Albert Einstein
Being a lover of freedom, when the [Nazi] revolution came, I looked to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted of their devotion to the cause of truth; but no, the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the newspapers, whose flaming editorials in days gone had proclaimed their love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few short weeks.... Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth. I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration for it because the Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for intellectual and moral freedom. I am forced to confess that what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.
Timothy Dwight on homosexual pretend-marriage
It is incomparably better that individuals should suffer than that an institution, which is the basis of all human good, should be shaken or endangered.
Benjamin Franklin
...for having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information or fuller consideration to change opinions even on important subjects which I once thought right but found to be otherwise...
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Robert Frost
Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.
Patrick Henry
Bad men cannot make good citizens. It is when a people forget God that tyrants forge their chains. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, is incompatible with freedom. No free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue; and by a frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.
The eternal difference between right and wrong does not fluctuate. It is immutable. And if the moral order does not change, then it imposes on us obligations toward God and man. Duty, then, requires the willingness to accept responsibility and to sacrifice one’s desires to a higher law.
It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religion but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We shall not fight alone. God presides over the destinies of nations.